The Ultimate Outdoor Playlist: 1990's Edition

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We've talked about all sorts of outdoor pop culture on The Rock Fight, movies, TV, books, but music has been somewhat neglected. Today, we fix that!

Host of Open Container, Doug Schnitzspahn, joins Colin & Shawnté as they each take a look back at the 1990's and assemble a playlist inspired by adventure. Each of them built a list of 10 songs from the 1990's (one from each year starting in 1990 and ending in 1999) to be the soundtrack of a their chosen activity.

3 activities, 10 years, 30 songs. Get ready of the ultimate outdoor playlist, 1990's edition!

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Episode Transcript:

Colin True

00:00:00.160 - 00:01:03.900

Hey, everyone, quick correction.

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Welcome to the Rock Fight, where we speak our truth, slay sacred cows, and sometimes agree to disagree. This is an outdoor podcast that aims for the head.

I'm Colin True, and today we're building the perfect playlist for the outdoorsy Gen Xer in your life. But before we get to that, did you check out Monday's episode of the Rock Fight, where we drafted the top outdoor brands fantasy football style?

If not, you should. It was really, really good. And also already out this week is Open Container, an awesome podcast featuring an awesome podcast host, Doug Schnitzman.

You're going to hear from him in a second.

Listen to Open Container wherever you're listening to this podcast, and be sure to come back to the Rock Fight this Friday for my conversation with Ortovox's Tom Mason, who's coming on to defend their mountain bike lineup. Big week here on the Rock Fight Podcast network and. And stick around. We'll be right back.

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00:03:20.900 - 00:03:26.860

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00:03:26.860 - 00:03:27.300

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00:03:55.200 - 00:03:56.400

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00:03:56.800 - 00:04:26.780

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Colin True

00:04:27.260 - 00:04:36.470

The Pitter Patter Podcast. All right, exciting development today. Shantae and I are joined by the host of Open Container. Doug Schnitzman's here everybody.

Chris DeMakes

00:04:36.470 - 00:04:37.030

Woo.

Shawnté Salabert

00:04:37.750 - 00:04:38.230

Woo.

Colin True

00:04:38.950 - 00:04:40.630

Doug got distracted. We introduced you.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:04:40.870 - 00:04:45.990

Yeah, I love that. That's great. I need some walk on music.

Colin True

00:04:46.630 - 00:04:49.830

We should do walk on music. So we should have. Or we should just play like the.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:04:49.830 - 00:04:52.750

Right now I've got my open container we can drop.

Colin True

00:04:52.750 - 00:04:55.270

Yeah, I'll drop the open container a little like outro right there.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:04:56.630 - 00:04:59.750

Simmons was, remember, Drew was all psyched. He's like, I just wanted to hear the.

Colin True

00:05:02.560 - 00:05:09.760

Well, it's like, it's like WWE style. So every time like Shantae was talking, it would drop that like my God, is that Schnitzman's music?

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:11.680 - 00:05:13.040

I love the anticipation.

Colin True

00:05:14.080 - 00:05:15.920

Do we want to banter about Anything, Any banter.

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:17.200 - 00:05:18.560

I feel like, you know, it's weird.

Colin True

00:05:18.560 - 00:05:19.760

Colin, what's that?

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:20.000 - 00:05:29.180

We're about to do something very different on today's episode. And I feel. I feel weird that we're not talking about the news. I'm giving it away that we're not talking about news today.

Colin True

00:05:29.340 - 00:05:33.500

And there were some outdoor deaths this week, as you so lovingly pointed out to me.

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:33.820 - 00:05:34.860

So terrible.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:05:35.420 - 00:05:39.740

I think they were Grim Reaper. I think they were caused by a Columbia ad, weren't they?

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:40.780 - 00:05:43.020

It's all possible. I don't want to name it.

Colin True

00:05:43.420 - 00:05:56.020

Just a little teaser. We don't want to get into it. But we will be discussing the new Columbia ad on Friday's episode of the Rock Fight.

And then on a future edition, the next edition of producer Dave and the brief is going to be about that, probably for sure. And I know Shantae is already, like.

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:56.020 - 00:05:56.700

Kicking in the door.

Colin True

00:05:57.020 - 00:05:57.970

I need to be part of that.

Shawnté Salabert

00:05:58.680 - 00:06:01.240

I must. There are scheduling myself angry people.

Colin True

00:06:01.320 - 00:06:50.190

I can't believe it. I'm like, this is just a hilarious ad. No, there are angry people in the world who are not. Who want to gatekeep what the outdoors should be.

So it's very funny. All right, well, listen, like Chante said, we're doing something a little different today.

If you listen to the Rock Fight fight song, everybody, which I'm sure you all stick around to the end of every episode to do that. Cause it's part of the show. But if you do listen to that, the lyrics tell you that we're supposed to be talking about music on this show.

And when we had our friend Krista Makes write that song for us, I really thought there would be more pop culture chatter on the pod. But so far I think we've done like one music centric episode. So to correct that, I've asked Doug and Shantae to join me.

And we're gonna kick off a recurring series where we build themed playlists for our outdoorsy pursuits. One of like, a little behind the scenes for the listener. We have a text thread called 90s forever.

Shawnté Salabert

00:06:50.270 - 00:06:53.310

That's the number four. Eva forever.

Colin True

00:06:53.470 - 00:06:54.870

Gotta do it like you would draw it on your leg.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:06:54.870 - 00:06:58.590

I actually own the website ninetiestalgia.com as well.

Shawnté Salabert

00:06:59.370 - 00:06:59.690

You do?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:07:00.650 - 00:07:01.210

I do.

Colin True

00:07:01.930 - 00:07:02.330

What?

Shawnté Salabert

00:07:02.330 - 00:07:04.410

What? Doug, why are you just telling us this?

Colin True

00:07:04.410 - 00:07:05.330

Yeah, what are you gonna do with this?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:07:05.330 - 00:07:19.050

I feel like because when I saw when 80s nostalgia came up and it was really big and everyone was into like, these kids were the 80s. I was like, I grew up in the 80s. 80s sucked. Except for Punk rock. And I was like, I bet the 90s will be next at some point.

So I bought 90sstalgia.com and here we are.

Shawnté Salabert

00:07:19.290 - 00:07:21.530

90S stalgia. When did you buy this website?

Colin True

00:07:21.610 - 00:07:22.330

2001.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:07:22.730 - 00:07:23.690

Yeah, 10 years ago.

Shawnté Salabert

00:07:23.850 - 00:07:50.900

The beginning of the Internet. You know what? Actually, in the beginning of the Internet, I remember I created my very first website.

And it was just one long page, just one long run on of a website because I didn't know how to make subpages. And the three main topics on it were the outdoors, which should shock nobody. I believe cats. And then the Beastie Boys. That's all my collective mix.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:07:50.900 - 00:07:55.980

I think we've got some Beastie Boys coming up. I have a feeling. I have a feeling there's some Beastie Boys coming up with this.

Colin True

00:07:55.980 - 00:08:02.400

One of those will come in handy today. Well, we are people who are born in the 1970s on this phone call here on this podcast.

Shawnté Salabert

00:08:02.400 - 00:08:06.880

Clearly, for me, I just want to point out it still counts in 79.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:08:07.680 - 00:08:12.400

I'm on the other end. I'm on 1969, baby. I'm 69.

Colin True

00:08:12.480 - 00:08:15.360

Oh, that's what I'm right in the middle. I'm 75. Look at this.

Chris DeMakes

00:08:15.520 - 00:08:16.160

Hey, yo.

Colin True

00:08:16.960 - 00:08:29.900

But the. Yeah, I mean, like, we're. We all remember, you know, 45s and kissingles and all of those things.

And so today we're gonna be building a playlist straight out of the 1990s, which I, for my money, and I think most people would agree, I think it's the greatest decade of music music ever.

Shawnté Salabert

00:08:30.140 - 00:08:30.780

Amen.

Colin True

00:08:31.260 - 00:08:32.180

Can't really get much better.

Shawnté Salabert

00:08:32.180 - 00:08:40.940

I mean, the 60s might have something to say about it, but for now, we'll just say that, like the greatest decade since we've been alive. It all led to that. Pretty good, too.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:08:41.260 - 00:08:43.820

90S holds up well, though. 90s holds up really well.

Colin True

00:08:44.060 - 00:08:45.020

The first half especially.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:08:45.180 - 00:08:46.140

Yeah, yeah.

Colin True

00:08:46.460 - 00:09:12.930

So what we're gonna do is we're gonna be listen. This has to be an outdoorsy themed thing.

So we're gonna pick an activity that we're gonna be doing and building a 1990s playlist to listen to while we're out doing that activity. So we're each gonna pick 10 songs, one each, that was released in every year of that decade starting 1990 to 1999.

But before we get to that, let's talk about the role of music in our outdoorsy lives. So, Shantae, let me start with you. Like, how much does music play into what you do out of doors?

Shawnté Salabert

00:09:14.690 - 00:09:18.770

It affords me the ability to Go outside because my day job is in music.

Colin True

00:09:19.410 - 00:09:20.890

So you're more of the practicality.

Shawnté Salabert

00:09:20.890 - 00:09:47.520

It's like from a practical standpoint, I earn a living licensing songs during the day. I. No, but I. It's funny, I don't generally listen to music when I'm outside. I.

My friends have actually called me a sociopath because I don't listen to music when I run, including when I run, you know, double digit miles. And I don't think. I just want to. I want to hear my thoughts. Apparently, I like to go deep and just listen to the music of my soul, if you will.

Colin True

00:09:48.000 - 00:09:55.040

Oh, dear God.

So wait, when that trend came out with people like, you know, raw dogging on airplanes where they're not looking at anything, you're like, yeah, what's the big deal? Like, I could do that.

Shawnté Salabert

00:09:55.520 - 00:10:20.700

I've done it, but I don't like it. No, on an airplane, I read, but I'm not like a speakers airpods in anything kind of gal outside. I guess I do sort of raw dog it, but I do.

It's funny, at one point last summer, I was on trail for a couple weeks and I remember distinctly I passed just a line of trees across a lake, and the reflection in the lake made me think of a sound wave. And then suddenly I was like, I really miss music. It's been too long.

Colin True

00:10:21.500 - 00:10:24.420

Doug, what about you? Do you listen to music while you're out doing stuff?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:10:24.420 - 00:10:29.260

I'm the same way. I just like to take in what's going on. I feel like it's part of the activity. If I'm running a bike.

Colin True

00:10:29.260 - 00:10:30.060

I chose poor.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:10:30.520 - 00:10:54.680

No, you did not. But you did not choose poorly. You did not choose poorly because I think for me, music is part of the buildup.

Music is part of when you're driving there with your buddies, your friends, everything you're doing there. And like, when you're on a tough hike, tough mountain bike ride, you've got songs going through your head. Like, I loved and what was it touching?

Touching the void where he was talking about when he thought he was gonna die and he had some awful club single stuck in his head the whole time. Right.

Shawnté Salabert

00:10:55.080 - 00:10:57.480

Was it like a dodo trash song from the 90s?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:10:58.680 - 00:11:16.900

It was something he hated. I was just on a big. I was just on a big backpack trip and. Yeah, trying to get through the hikes.

I had the I like the new Haim album is pretty awesome. I had the song cry stuck in my head. Just backpacking up, you know, going through my system.

Colin True

00:11:17.060 - 00:11:25.100

So, you know, one of the benefits of modern society is you could actually be listening to that Haim song, that Haim album, while you were backpacking. You wouldn't have to imagine it, but.

Shawnté Salabert

00:11:25.100 - 00:11:26.540

Then you wouldn't hear all the birds come.

Colin True

00:11:26.540 - 00:11:27.100

Then there'd be.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:11:27.100 - 00:11:28.620

Yeah, yeah, I like that. You know, it's okay.

Shawnté Salabert

00:11:28.620 - 00:11:29.300

Walk around your house.

Colin True

00:11:31.140 - 00:11:32.930

I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.

Shawnté Salabert

00:11:33.160 - 00:11:41.720

But wow, like a road trip to the trailhead. Kind of listener. I might. I'm getting jazzed. I'm getting in the mood. And then out there, I just want to be immersed.

Colin True

00:11:41.720 - 00:11:42.000

But.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:11:42.000 - 00:11:50.120

And then for the. And then for the film, for the real. The real music. I think a lot about the real music to put along with the activity or the video. Yeah.

What goes well?

Shawnté Salabert

00:11:50.120 - 00:11:57.960

Never posted a reel. I don't even know how. Don't ask me to do any social media strategy for you, Colin.

Colin True

00:11:58.280 - 00:12:17.700

I am the exact opposite of both of you. I. There is rarely a time that I'm outside where I don't have my AirPods in and I'm listening to something, whether it's a podcast from you.

I genuinely think it is a activity accentuator for me. There are times too when I do. If it's a longer day and I, you know, can.

I can go out without listening to something, but I genuinely like listening to stuff while I'm out there.

Shawnté Salabert

00:12:18.100 - 00:12:21.380

How do you think it would feel if you just raw dogged it and you didn't listen to anything?

Colin True

00:12:21.780 - 00:12:25.460

I did hike up Baldi because I was with some other people. I didn't. I didn't even take my head.

Shawnté Salabert

00:12:25.460 - 00:12:26.900

That's not the same. I mean by yourself.

Colin True

00:12:27.300 - 00:12:31.780

Oh, fuck that. I don't wanna be alone with my thoughts. You guys have met me. Would you wanna be alone with this?

Shawnté Salabert

00:12:32.020 - 00:12:33.060

Not particularly.

Colin True

00:12:33.060 - 00:12:48.080

Right. All right, well then, so how did you gu. Selecting your songs?

Because my activity and listening to my playlist while I'm doing the activity was like integral to the experience. Like, how did you go about it? What was your method? Shantay?

Shawnté Salabert

00:12:48.560 - 00:12:52.240

My method was, well, do you want to know my activity or are we saving it?

Colin True

00:12:52.240 - 00:12:53.680

Okay, yeah, good point. What's your activity?

Shawnté Salabert

00:12:53.840 - 00:13:19.740

All right, so my activity is very specifically going on a backpacking trip with a couple of my girlfriends.

It's like a weekend trip, maybe a long weekend trip, but we're in the car together, we're driving up to the trailhead, we're getting psyched for the trip. So I thought about. I went sort of themed. I thought about a. I wanted my entire list to reflect female Artists. I noticed yours didn't at all Colin.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:13:19.900 - 00:13:21.700

And then not me. I female.

Shawnté Salabert

00:13:21.700 - 00:13:54.080

Not Doug. Doug's, Doug's. I peeped Doug's list. I peaked at his Spotify. It was wonderful. Not that yours isn't Colin. It was just very bro y.

So I went all ladies for mine. Colin's just holding it inside right now. He wants to reach through the screen and maybe slap me a little bit.

But I, yeah, I thought about like, all right, I went with what, what are the vibes I want to create? But really, what are the thematic tie ins to what we're going to experience while we're out there? So this is the.

We're in the car leading up to the trailhead. That's how I did it. I did a little storytelling in my head.

Colin True

00:13:54.080 - 00:13:59.320

Doug, what about you? What was your, what was your. What's your activity and what, what were you thinking about while you're putting your list together?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:13:59.560 - 00:14:55.010

Yeah, my activity is mountain biking. Love of mine since, you know, started in the 80s on a crappy steel, full steel giant iguana.

By Sometime in the 90s, I had what was supposed to be the good bike, then the Schwinn Moab, which seemed like a cool bike. And I think I upgraded to grip shifters at some point. But we rode, we rode some crazy stuff on those crap bikes, so that's great.

And I love mountain biking in general. I love the combination of grinding in and working and cardio and then just free flow.

So my playlist represents a good mountain bike ride, like what you'd want to hear on a good mountain bike ride. Digging in for the climb and then letting go for the flow. And then we've got a good little outro as well.

It also represents music that I was listening to at the time, that I loved at the time, as well as bands and artists that I think were really influential in music in general for each year.

Colin True

00:14:55.010 - 00:15:01.130

Shantae. A mountain bike is a bike that you ride off trail on dirt. That's what. Because you know, not sure I know.

Shawnté Salabert

00:15:01.130 - 00:15:07.530

You'Re not on a mountain bike. I've ridden a mountain bike. In fact, I've ridden in Moab on a mountain bike. Thank you very much.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:15:07.530 - 00:15:08.670

Was it a Schwinmo ab?

Shawnté Salabert

00:15:08.670 - 00:15:40.150

However, it was, sadly, it wasn't that on brand.

But that's where I discovered the magic of the dropper bar and realized that I wish my bike had a dropper bar because I as a kid, I didn't have a bike, so I didn't learn how to ride a bike. Till I was like 12. And I, I love the feeling of riding a bike.

But even recently I was out on Long island and I went on a bike ride on the beach and I was like butt clenching the whole time because it had been a while since last time I was on a bike. I'm like, which one of these cars is going to end me? I'm going to try to enjoy my ride until.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:15:41.330 - 00:15:42.170

Colin, what about you?

Colin True

00:15:42.170 - 00:15:55.770

I also chose mountain biking. Yeah. Yeah. Decided, you know, it was kind of same thing of like, and specifically like a lunchtime ride because it's 10 songs.

You know, the total playlist I think is obviously since it's such a bro y list and it's a lot of, you know, like it's just a very.

Shawnté Salabert

00:15:55.770 - 00:15:58.010

You know, three minute songs, two minute songs.

Colin True

00:15:58.010 - 00:16:26.030

Yep, yep. It's like a 40 minute list.

So it's like, okay, so it's the time of you head out for lunch, you get changed, you get on your bike, you ride, you get back. It's perfect timing. So it's gotta like, kind of like fill that in, Fill that void in there. So. All right, so here's what we're gonna do.

As we go through each year and our songs, we're going to take a look at why we made the choice. We did provide any biographical information that will be helpful in understanding why we made our picks.

But we'll also get into some other songs that we strongly considered, which you'll find there are some, definitely some female artists on my list. Shante Salibar.

Shawnté Salabert

00:16:26.030 - 00:16:27.390

So did you just add them?

Colin True

00:16:28.350 - 00:16:31.310

Okay, well, maybe you just didn't read it. Maybe. Maybe that's not possible.

Shawnté Salabert

00:16:31.310 - 00:16:31.870

That's possible.

Colin True

00:16:32.190 - 00:16:37.880

All right, so. But before we get started, I'm not going to let you read the OBO's ad. Read now that's, that's you for being mean to me.

Shawnté Salabert

00:16:38.190 - 00:16:39.150

All right, fine.

Colin True

00:16:39.150 - 00:16:40.590

That's fine. You can read it. Go ahead.

Shawnté Salabert

00:16:42.430 - 00:17:03.230

Today's best outdoor playlist on the Rock Fight is brought to you by Oboz, who wants to share their love of hiking and apparently music. And we want to help them by uncovering all the different reasons we love to take the long walk, including the following. Number one.

Let's see what Colin's written this week. Because for your effort, you've earned the right to eat a burrito the size of your head.

Colin True

00:17:03.800 - 00:17:14.600

Yeah.

In addition to having music playing in my ears when I'm out doing something, the other thing is the moment I step onto a trail or on my bike or whatever, I'm thinking, what Am I gonna eat after this? And a lot of times is the answer.

Shawnté Salabert

00:17:14.600 - 00:17:16.840

So we need to do some more food episodes.

Colin True

00:17:16.840 - 00:17:17.280

I agree.

Shawnté Salabert

00:17:17.280 - 00:17:18.880

We haven't done nearly enough food.

Colin True

00:17:18.880 - 00:17:19.720

No, we need to.

Shawnté Salabert

00:17:19.960 - 00:17:31.770

All right, number two, from our friend Oboz. Our friend, our just singular friend Oboz. Trailhead flirting is a niche, but thrilling. Thrilling sport. What? I want to know what you mean by that.

Colin True

00:17:31.770 - 00:17:38.850

She's wondering. Yeah, I. You know, I. I wonder if that happens. Do you think people flirt with the trailhead? I think that's nothing but creepy. Yeah. Isn't that weird?

Shawnté Salabert

00:17:38.850 - 00:17:40.370

I think it's creepy. Stalking.

Colin True

00:17:40.690 - 00:17:47.650

It's thrilling. That's why it's thrilling. You don't know what's gonna happen. You could end up in jail. Who knows what's gonna happen?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:17:48.770 - 00:18:03.780

My wife and her friend, our friend Erin, were at a trailhead at Fruita once, and these dudes came up and tried to mansplain at them when they're looking at the map, you know, and they're like, oh, yeah, and this trail, actually, if you take it, it'll go all the way to Moab. And Radha looked at him, she's like, yeah, I've ridden it.

Shawnté Salabert

00:18:05.780 - 00:18:18.180

He's like, this trail will go all the way to my heart. That would be trailhead flirting.

But, you know, at number three, because you like making questionable decisions with strangers from the hiking subreddit.

Colin True

00:18:19.460 - 00:18:21.220

That goes right there with the trail head. Flirting.

Shawnté Salabert

00:18:21.860 - 00:18:24.260

Danger. That's like, danger topics today.

Colin True

00:18:24.920 - 00:18:27.640

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Colin True

00:19:14.100 - 00:19:15.220

Was that a hashtag?

Shawnté Salabert

00:19:15.700 - 00:19:23.530

Hash it. Flirting at the trailhead. That's my. I'm actually gonna reconfigure my entire playlist now to be trailhead flirting. But, like, creepy.

Colin True

00:19:23.930 - 00:19:30.730

That's the next playlist we'll do the trailhead flirting play. What do you play the trailhead when you wanna, like, not put someone off, but welcome them.

Shawnté Salabert

00:19:30.730 - 00:19:35.250

Yeah. You're not necessarily looking to kidnap them and or break into their vehicle, but.

Colin True

00:19:35.250 - 00:19:37.810

You can understand how someone might think that. But that's not what you're doing.

Shawnté Salabert

00:19:37.810 - 00:19:38.810

That's not why you're there.

Colin True

00:19:39.690 - 00:19:47.050

All right, Shantae, you wanna keep talking? What's your first song? What's your 1990 song? Always 1990. So the song had to be released in the year 1990?

Shawnté Salabert

00:19:47.050 - 00:19:55.410

Yes. All right, so I wanted the caveat because my list is thematic. I'll explain all my choices as we go year by year through all of our choices.

Colin True

00:19:55.650 - 00:19:59.690

And none of you will be listening to them while you're out doing the activity. That's fine. We've accelerated. That's true.

Shawnté Salabert

00:19:59.690 - 00:20:21.130

Yeah. But if I was actually making this a mixtape for the car, the songs would go in a slightly different order just to make thematic sense.

But since we're going year by year here. All right, so 1990. I'm going with salt and peppers. Let's talk about sex from Black's Magic.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:20:21.690 - 00:20:22.170

Yeah.

Shawnté Salabert

00:20:22.730 - 00:20:23.450

Okay, so.

Colin True

00:20:23.450 - 00:20:26.570

Okay, keep going. I want to hear this rationale. This is amazing.

Shawnté Salabert

00:20:26.730 - 00:20:34.170

All right. I was too young in 1990 to talk about sex outside of like the regulation Tampax sponsored sex ed class that we had in school.

Colin True

00:20:34.490 - 00:20:36.490

You had sponsors for your sex ed class?

Shawnté Salabert

00:20:36.890 - 00:20:42.130

They would give us little packages. I feel like people who are around my age have to remember this. They may still do this in school.

Colin True

00:20:42.130 - 00:20:46.010

I just have to be that sales rep. Oh, my God. I gotta go pitch schools on the sex ed.

Shawnté Salabert

00:20:46.870 - 00:21:31.860

We got a little, like, package of pads and tampons and a booklet. Truly embarrassing to bring home to my mom, but I think she was glad she didn't have to start that conversation.

But as a grown ass woman in the year of our Lord 2025, you can bet that not only am I going to talk about sex, but it's going to be one of the main topics of conversation on any backpacking trip I take with my girlfriends. Next level raunchy discourse that would make our 1990 selves. Blush. Solo sex, partner sex, sex. We want to have sex.

We hear other people are having dirty jokes, innuendo, pure filth. Like that is if you've ever. But you've never. Because you two wouldn't have been on a backpacking trip where it's just all women. This is what happens.

We talk about all sorts of. All sorts of things, but we absolutely always talk about sex.

Colin True

00:21:31.940 - 00:21:33.900

This is why I'm flirting with you guys at the trailhead.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:21:33.900 - 00:21:36.260

Yeah, no flirt. No flirting at the trailhead, though.

Shawnté Salabert

00:21:36.580 - 00:21:38.660

No, we're probably not talking about.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:21:39.540 - 00:21:41.240

Don't give the creepers any idea ideas.

Shawnté Salabert

00:21:41.480 - 00:21:44.600

Let's talk about creeps, baby. Yeah.

Colin True

00:21:44.760 - 00:21:50.560

Also, thank you for giving me for the. The promo. Promo clip for this episode was just right there. Thank you very much.

Shawnté Salabert

00:21:50.560 - 00:22:02.200

You know, I should know better by now. I'm all sweaty in it, too. That's even better, man.

Anyway, but you just also know the whole car is going to be bumping, so as soon as that comes on the speakers. But that is my classic.

Colin True

00:22:02.200 - 00:22:03.560

I can't believe that was 1990.

Shawnté Salabert

00:22:04.040 - 00:22:04.680

I know.

Colin True

00:22:05.160 - 00:22:07.670

Any other songs you considered way too young?

Shawnté Salabert

00:22:07.750 - 00:22:35.190

You know, I have a couple other years on here that I have alternates that I considered, but I didn't do it for every year. So, no, 1990 was a weird year when I was looking back through. I was in middle school then, I think, and it was not one thing. You'll notice.

I don't know if you guys noticed, but because I was looking for songs by female artists, you get a lot of pop schmaltz in these early 90s years until we start hitting the mid-90s. So it was. I had to really dig.

Colin True

00:22:35.190 - 00:22:36.270

Doug, what do you have for 1990?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:22:36.740 - 00:23:15.860

I think 1990 was great, but maybe that's because I was 21 and I was bartending in downtown Boston and I was mountain biking at the Middlesex Fells and a lot of places around there. I thought it was a hard year. I thought there was so much good to choose from.

There was some LL Cool J, there was Prince album, Graffiti Bridge, lesser known, but really good album. We Can Funk, Sinead o', Connor, Sonic Youth, Cool Thing, Pixies, Digging For Fire.

There's so much stuff to choose from, but I had to go with who I think is the greatest MC of all time, Public Enemy, Chuck D. Welcome to the Terror Dome.

Shawnté Salabert

00:23:20.660 - 00:23:21.140

Yes.

Colin True

00:23:21.140 - 00:23:21.939

Oh, yeah.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:23:22.420 - 00:24:21.100

I think the best. And, you know, the song came about, you know, in reaction to some difficult shit with some anti Semitism with Professor Griff.

And it was his reaction, but I think it's still relevant today in the way that black Americans still have to deal with a lot of bullshit in this country. And I think there's some ways that they're like, oh, why are white kids listening to black empowerment rap? Or something?

But I think it was a great thing to listen to because it educated you about what people were going through. You might be able to understand them better that song.

I worked at this bar, Serendipity, in Faneuil hall, and there was this crazy dude, Charlie, who was a prep kid. Dick Cook, worked down in the kitchen down in the basement. And I was one of the few people he liked. I'd come down there and talk to him.

He'd be like, you're all right, man. Be chopping stuff up. And we would listen to a lot of Fear of a Black Planet, this Public Enemy album.

Beyond that, the beats, that thing will get you going, get you started.

Colin True

00:24:21.260 - 00:24:33.330

That's the key, right? And you're kind of. Especially a mountain bike ride and even your road trip, right? It's like. It is the kickoff point, right?

This is the thing where it's like, what is going to get you in that vibe? What is the mood you want to be in going out on that, Right?

Shawnté Salabert

00:24:33.960 - 00:24:40.600

Oh, yeah. It's always about the first song. I mean, think about carefully crafting mixtapes back in the day, you know?

Colin True

00:24:41.560 - 00:24:42.520

Audio clip here.

Shawnté Salabert

00:24:43.400 - 00:24:55.280

Nerd alert. We would all just spend hours thinking about, like, painstakingly crafting these things so that they flowed.

There had to be a flow, but you had to start it off with the right mood. Like, you're setting the standard, and I.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:24:55.280 - 00:24:57.160

Am hitting you in the face to start it off.

Shawnté Salabert

00:24:57.160 - 00:25:00.930

That's right. I love your standard setting. Good choice.

Colin True

00:25:00.930 - 00:25:49.290

Well, that. To that point, that's my. My choice. I chose Jane's Addiction. Been caught stealing. The thing was, it was kind of that same thing because there's.

There's a little, like. I forget what it is. There's kind of a. Like a sound effect that starts that song before the. The. The riff kicks in. But there's the driving bass line.

It's almost like kind of a punk rock bass line of that song. And my whole thing is if I was setting off on a bike ride, it's when you're feeling the best. You're gonna feel for, like, the next one to 10 hours.

In this case, like 40 minutes. But it's a. It's. You're not gonna feel any better than you do right now. And this is a fun vibe of the song. And that baseline is great.

So, like, let's go. Let's get started. So that's why I chose Been Caught Stealing plus kind of classic. I can't believe I thought that was later in the 90s.

I couldn't remember. I thought that was right off nothing. Shocking.

Shawnté Salabert

00:25:49.530 - 00:25:50.330

Shocking to me.

Colin True

00:25:50.490 - 00:26:43.810

Right. Other songs I seriously considered. You mentioned LL Cool J. That's the. Your mama said knock youk out came out.

That's another just kind of class, like, get things going. I'm a big they Might Be Giants fan, and that was Istanbul. Knockan Santino will be a fun way to, I think, start a bike ride.

It's kind of a propulsive song. So it's just got the year for Cowboys From Hell from Pantera, which I think is an awesome tune. And then twice as hard off.

The debut album by the Black Crows was another one I considered, but, you know, it was Jane's Addiction for me. But that brings us to 1991, which, for my money, was the hardest year to choose on this list. I really struggled with 91, I think.

Shantae, you're right about the mix. Like, you still had 80s holdovers, and then you're just now getting into the 90s. And this, for me, was the absolute epicenter of all of these bands.

And I just really could have gone a lot of different ways. So I'm excited to hear what you guys did there. Shante, what did you do for 1991?

Shawnté Salabert

00:26:44.210 - 00:27:20.350

So interesting. Well, you bring up, too, like, we're in a shifting. This.

This early 90s was such a shift in music because we were coming out of hair metal and as we slid into what would become grunge and.

And all, you know, alt rock and everything, moving away from new wave, moving away from hair metal, all of that was kind of like a rebel rebellion against all of those 80s sounds. So. But I went in a little different direction.

I think, you know, part of this is that I sort of painted myself in a corner a bit by deciding to only feature female artists. And this one is a little bit of a stretch, but I went with Massive Attack. Safe From Harm from Blue Lines.

Colin True

00:27:27.940 - 00:27:28.740

Inspired choice.

Shawnté Salabert

00:27:28.980 - 00:27:29.620

Thank you.

Colin True

00:27:29.860 - 00:27:30.340

Yes.

Shawnté Salabert

00:27:30.580 - 00:27:44.420

I mean, honestly. So my.

My caveat here is that if I was driving by myself to the trailhead and I was choosing a 1991 album, I would honestly probably just have Ani DiFranco's entire not so soft album on repeat because it remains one of my favorites.

Colin True

00:27:44.420 - 00:27:45.300

That's a great album.

Shawnté Salabert

00:27:45.380 - 00:28:05.300

34 years later. Love on it. You think? I love it. I got that as part of a mix CD in college. I came to it later.

My RA wanted me to fall in love with Ani DiFranco and possibly also herself. And so she made me this Nick CD of Ani DiFranco songs. It was like the gayest thing that ever happened to me in college.

Colin True

00:28:05.300 - 00:28:07.380

She was flirting at the trailhead, is what you're saying.

Shawnté Salabert

00:28:07.380 - 00:28:46.190

Flirting at the trailhead of Beauty. Yes. And I was like, wow, thanks so much. I love all of her songs so deeply. And then actually I did end up loving all of her songs so deeply.

So that's what I would play if I was by myself. But since I'm with my girls, we're going backpacking. We want vibes. So Massive Attack is just full on vibey to me.

They've one of my favorite vibe bands. Them in Portishead and some of those other great trip hop bands from the 90s. And safe from Harm. What a nice safety check.

That's how we want to stay on this trip. We're going out there, we're trying to come home intact. We're trying to return to the trailhead for some post trail flirting absolutely intact.

Colin True

00:28:46.270 - 00:28:53.500

Would you say the song is the Ed Veasters of popular music in 1991? Yeah.

Shawnté Salabert

00:28:53.500 - 00:29:00.260

Yes. Getting to optional, getting down is mandatory. Safe From Harm. Massive Attack.

Colin True

00:29:01.460 - 00:29:03.700

All right, Doug. 1991. Who you got?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:29:04.020 - 00:29:29.660

Well, I think Shantae is incredibly inspired because I am also on the Massive Attack Train, one of my favorite bands of all time. When this album came out, it freaking blew my mind. I just love it. Love the whole Bristol sound, how they combine everything.

It also is a female artist because you've got Shar Nelson with his vocals. I chose a different song from one of my favorite all time albums. I'm going with Daydreaming.

Shawnté Salabert

00:29:29.980 - 00:29:30.460

Nice.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:29:37.340 - 00:30:02.820

Just for the freaking beats in that song to get you going on your mountain bike ride and moving along. And also just for the freaking fantastic interplay between Sharon Nelson's vocals with Daddy G with Tricky rapping along to it.

I can listen to that song over and over again. That album holds up so freaking well still. I'm like, where is this? I want something like this now. Like, I want that album so good.

I keep wanting something like that to come out again, you know, and this.

Shawnté Salabert

00:30:02.820 - 00:30:31.840

Like, oh my God. Like Nightmares on Wax, Cinematic Orchestra, DJ Shadow.

Like, there's so many people, I think that pull from what Massive Attack was pioneering back in the day and what I love, like, Doug, you touched. I love the cinematic nature of their music. And I feel like.

Do you ever feel when you're out there and you're talking about, you know, riding, I'm talking about hiking.

But sometimes I really do feel like I'm in a little, little short film or something of my own and I do think about if there was a soundtrack, what would it be? And yeah, Massive Attack would have to be on there.

Colin True

00:30:32.480 - 00:30:37.800

I can't believe that this is the year where there was two of us took the same artist. That's actually. If I were.

Shawnté Salabert

00:30:37.800 - 00:30:38.640

That is kind of nothing.

Colin True

00:30:38.640 - 00:30:42.160

It was going to be this year. That's amazing. So, wow, look at you guys. You guys should have your own music.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:30:43.200 - 00:30:54.390

I saw some influencer. I don't know who the hell she was. Someone who thought she was a music influencer. Influencer.

And she was saying, like, albums I'm supposed to like, but I don't. And one of them was Blue Lines. And I was just like, fuck you.

Shawnté Salabert

00:30:54.390 - 00:30:58.390

You have no taste. I would not flirt with you at the trailhead.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:30:58.470 - 00:31:02.829

No, she does not get anything at the trailhead. She just gets the outsole dead stick.

Colin True

00:31:02.829 - 00:31:26.980

Well, my choice probably is wildly different because, listen, I'm on my mountain bike at this point. We're one song in. All right, so you're still setting the tone for the rock at this point. You might probably climbing a little bit, right?

So you need to keep the energy high before the gets too hard. So there's only one way I can go in this for 1991, and it's hear the drummer get wicked. How low can you go?

Chris DeMakes

00:31:27.140 - 00:31:28.020

Death Row.

Colin True

00:31:28.100 - 00:31:37.340

What a bummer. Once again, that is the incredible Prime Animal, Bring the noise, Public Enemy and Anthrax.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:31:37.340 - 00:31:38.180

There we go. Yeah.

Colin True

00:31:38.340 - 00:32:28.230

Apocalypse 91. It's on. Attack of the Killer Bees. And despite. Despite Scott Ian's terrible rapping, it may be the best rap rock crossover of all time.

This is one of these songs where I just. Every single time. I'll never. I mean, I might not listen to it if I see it coming up in the playlist, but if it starts, I'm gonna finish it.

It's just a true product of its era and awesome. I mean, other things I considered, though. I mean, this year is not fair. Like, you had the Black Album from Metallica.

I could have taken any song off of that. Anything off of Gish. Probably. My favorite Smashing Pumpkins album, Nevermind came out. 10 came out.

Hunger Strike, Temple of the Dog came out Girlfriend by Matthew Sweet, Bad, Motor Finger. Both Use your Illusion albums came out this year. If you still want to go back to GNR when they were still being gnr.

It's unfair, but it's also a good reminder of how good we used to have it. That was an insane.

Shawnté Salabert

00:32:28.230 - 00:32:30.630

He's such a salty old dog when it comes to.

Colin True

00:32:31.830 - 00:32:51.170

I was looking at some website, the list, you know, and every honest website that had every year and like the top 100 albums for every year. And there'd be stuff like, oh, yeah, that one. That one this year that just kept.

Everyone was like, yep, banger, banger, banger, banger the whole way down. So 91. Good year for music, truly. All right, 92. Shantae, what do you got for 92?

Shawnté Salabert

00:32:51.170 - 00:33:12.370

Okay, I've got another. This one's coming out of left field here. But, like, again, I went thematically.

I thought about if I put the song on in the car and everybody knows I made a backpacking themed playlist for us, people are gonna laugh at this. So I chose for 1992 again, my old K D? Lange, Constant Craving.

Colin True

00:33:12.930 - 00:33:14.770

Oh, that's a great choice.

Shawnté Salabert

00:33:22.690 - 00:33:23.890

It's such a good song.

Colin True

00:33:24.610 - 00:33:27.090

Katie Lang in a minute. I gotta be honest, right?

Shawnté Salabert

00:33:28.050 - 00:33:35.330

I think we forget Katie Laing is an incredible. She actually did a really cool project with Nico Case. And oh, my gosh, I'm forgetting the third.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:33:35.330 - 00:33:36.530

Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

Shawnté Salabert

00:33:36.530 - 00:34:57.870

Laura Vere Veers, Kai Slang Veers. And that was a fantastic album. And to hear the three of them, three women with just incredible voices and just timeless voices, a plus.

But for this song. So I'm one of those people for whom hiker hunger hits immediately on a trip.

Like, some people are like, oh, it takes me 10 days on a backpacking trip. I'm like, we're talking two hours. Oh, you've. You've hiked for two hours? Time for a candy reward, sister. Yeah, I. Hiking is.

Is, for me, a reason to eat. So obviously our dearest Katherine Dawn Lang is not singing about Cheetos here, but my friends will get it.

I mean, my main backpacking squad, who I've actually mentioned on the pod before my feral females, one of our favorite things to do when we get together is to haul in basically an entire Trader Joe's worth of snacks, find a relatively flat rock, rinse it off a bit, then lay out our spread, and we have concocted cheese plates and spreads so beautiful that back when I was on Twitter, our ip Twitter, Twitter, I posted a photo of one of our more ambitious displays, and none other than supermodel turned cookbook author Chrissy Teigen left a very hungry sounding comment on the photo. So, anyway, I'm constantly craving calories, but I do. I do have an honorable mention, and that is the 10,000 maniacs. These are days.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:34:58.030 - 00:34:58.670

Oh, yeah.

Shawnté Salabert

00:34:58.750 - 00:35:04.950

Because, I mean, judging from my backpacking record with girlfriends, we will indeed come away with lifelong memories and say, these are the days that will remain.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:35:06.460 - 00:35:06.700

Aw.

Colin True

00:35:08.940 - 00:35:10.460

All right, Doug, what do you got for 92?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:35:10.460 - 00:35:19.340

Well, first of all, Katie Lang's fantastic. I Love her, but I can't stand when people say that her version of Hallelujah is better than Jeff Buckley's because Jeff Buckley.

Shawnté Salabert

00:35:19.340 - 00:35:20.620

Oh my gosh, nobody's is better than Buckley.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:35:20.620 - 00:35:29.820

It's too bad we don't have. I don't have Jeff Buckley on the playlist. Just too slow for a mountain bike ride. But no one like Jeff. No one.

No one is otherworldly as Jeff Buckley for me.

Shawnté Salabert

00:35:30.220 - 00:35:36.020

Wait, you don't just stop in the middle of a ride and have like a reflective moment with one silent tear dripping down your face.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:35:36.020 - 00:35:36.850

Buyback wine, please.

Colin True

00:35:37.720 - 00:35:40.840

Maybe after you wreck, you know, hurt my knee.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:35:43.400 - 00:36:56.030

But you're really in the zone. You're really out there in the zone. But anyway, I got some beats going. We got some Public Enemies, some Massive Attack.

And now we're going to hit it really hard in this Pedal up the hill here and need some Sonic Youth. Dirty. Another one of my all time favorite bands. A band that straddled two decades.

I think in the 80s they broke things open with what punk could be and the 90s they really came into their own even more so dirty. Great album. 100% is an amazing song and has a great skate video to it.

But I'm going with Sugar Cane, another just burning song that'd be great for you to be writing up again. Would love to do a Kim Gordon song off Sonic Youth album, but again, Kim Gordon songs burn a little slower. So we're going with Thurston Moore.

Also, I think unrecognized for Sonic Youth, who I've always loved is the drummer Steve Shelley, who just one of the greatest drummers of all time, doesn't get as much recognition as he should. And if you listen to that song Pedaling Uphill, it's gonna get you up.

Shawnté Salabert

00:36:57.150 - 00:37:00.030

Sugarcane, but you won't be listening to it Pedaling Uphill.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:37:00.670 - 00:37:09.060

I'll put it on my reel. On my reel. You can pretend I was listening to do it. I got the vibes I could have that. I could have that riff in my head.

That riff is freaking awesome. It's a great riff.

Colin True

00:37:09.060 - 00:38:19.380

I'll take the challenge to slow things down because my song from 1992 was pretty slow and. And I. It was a. It was a little. I was. I had to include it because it's my desert island. All time number one favorite song. It is a.

The song that I will listen to whenever it comes on till it finishes. I can also though it works for me in any scenario. I've listened to it while riding, running, hiking, whatever and it still hits.

And it helps me kind of get through those low moments, even if it's a little slower. And this song is Seasons by Chris Cornell on the single soundtrack. Shout out to the singer soundtrack. One of the top five. It's just that song.

And that's how I define. It's my number one song because it's like, if it comes on it, it's. I still want to listen to it and I will never skip it.

So like, it's gotta be my favorite song. So I knew that when we were gonna do this list that I would have to be in the spot, which was hard because this is the year that Blind Melon.

Blind Melon came out. Which is maybe one of my top five most listened to albums. It's a. It's a no Skips album for me.

And I really wanted to put Paper Scratcher on there, but we couldn't do that. And then also. So what you want? Check youk Head came out this year, Doug.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:38:19.380 - 00:38:20.460

Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah.

Colin True

00:38:20.460 - 00:38:34.710

And then Monty got a raw deal from REM Is Killing in the Name. This is when Rage debuted. Also, Megadeth had a great album. Countdown to Extinction came out. So Symphony of Destruction was another one I considered.

But it was really always gonna be seasons for me in this spot.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:38:34.710 - 00:38:41.429

So, dude, there's a lot of great songs just off the singles album. You could have had Waiting for Someone. The Westerberg song. You could have had the.

Colin True

00:38:41.429 - 00:38:44.550

It's a great Screaming Tree song on there. Wood by Alison Chains.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:38:44.870 - 00:38:49.990

The Battle of Evermore being covered by Anne and Nancy Wilson. Love mongers. Yeah.

Colin True

00:38:50.070 - 00:38:55.134

But 1993. What was young Shantae listening to in 1993?

Shawnté Salabert

00:38:55.306 - 00:39:28.060

1993. This one I knew had to go on the list.

So if there is one thing to know about me, it's that I used to spend a lot of time at the Natural Wonder store at the mall when I was a teenager. That is the store where you could go get Puda Mayo CDs, wind chimes.

I'm 99% certain that I owned a T shirt with at least one wolf on it that I got from that store. And I co founded the People's Environmental Club with my friend Eric. We were the only two members.

Anyway, so this song, this song is Belly Feed the Tree.

Colin True

00:39:28.540 - 00:39:29.500

Yay, Belly.

Shawnté Salabert

00:39:38.220 - 00:40:09.470

Yeah, that's right.

So the first time I heard this song, if you think about Shantae and her natural wonders phase, which has continued to this day, apparently, I was like, omg. A song about trees. Which I love. I love trees. Now, of course, it's actually a song about challenging a guy to show up in a relationship.

But thematically, I can't pass up an amazing song about trees. But also, come on. Belly's front woman is Tanya Donnelly, an original member of both Throwing Muses and the breeders.

So basically 90s indie rock royalty.

Colin True

00:40:09.630 - 00:40:10.270

Seriously.

Shawnté Salabert

00:40:10.430 - 00:40:16.750

So, yeah, I had to give a shout out. I hadn't heard this song in a while, and I put it on and it hit a little harder than I even remember it. And that made me really happy.

Colin True

00:40:16.910 - 00:40:19.310

And you're going on a backpacking trip. You're gonna see a lot of trees.

Shawnté Salabert

00:40:19.470 - 00:40:26.490

So many trees. But you know what? We're gonna leave no trace. We're not gonna feed. Maybe some water.

If you've got some leftover water at the end of the day, I thought.

Colin True

00:40:26.490 - 00:40:34.210

You'Re gonna find a way to tie this to marmots. I really did. For a second there, I'm like, she's gonna walk. She's gonna connect those feet. The marmots. Charlie Kelly. A style to marmots.

Shawnté Salabert

00:40:35.570 - 00:40:37.090

Listen, don't give me a challenge.

Colin True

00:40:37.490 - 00:40:39.090

Doug. What do you got? 1993.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:40:39.410 - 00:40:48.450

Oh, I've got a good one for this. Especially for the climb up. I have got Tribe Called Quest with Busta Rhymes. Oh, my God. One of my favorite songs.

Shawnté Salabert

00:40:48.770 - 00:40:50.370

Everybody, the bottom line.

Colin True

00:40:50.450 - 00:40:57.870

I'm a black intellect but I'm refined. Reprecision. Like the A Bullet. Yes.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:40:57.870 - 00:41:21.410

Of Tribe Called Quest. Such a great album. Get you up the hill. Missed tribe earlier in 1991. Wanted to get that album in, but Midnight Marauder is another great album.

Also one of my favorite lyrics in rap ever, which is I like my beats hard, like 2 day old. That one never gets old. And I think that'll help you on your plunge. You get that going.

Shawnté Salabert

00:41:21.410 - 00:41:25.090

I want to just make a note for Owen that I didn't say it this episode. That's right.

Colin True

00:41:26.690 - 00:41:28.970

That's right. We're 45 minutes into recording.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:41:28.970 - 00:41:32.770

I want you to just drop that. I want you to drop that on Owen just during.

Colin True

00:41:33.170 - 00:41:34.010

What are you dropping on?

Shawnté Salabert

00:41:34.010 - 00:41:35.410

What do you want to drop on Owen?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:41:35.570 - 00:41:36.770

Two day old. Shit.

Shawnté Salabert

00:41:37.170 - 00:41:39.890

Owen's so disgusted right now, and he hasn't even heard this.

Colin True

00:41:39.890 - 00:42:06.530

He's like, God damn it, I can't get through one episode. So 1993 for me was always going to be about Siamese Dream and Smashing Pumpkins up there with Blind Melon, a few other ones.

The ones I've just listened to the most and still listen to to this day. I thought I might pick Hummer But I decided with Rocket, because I'm like, okay, if I added in a little cool down with Seasons.

Time to pick things back up. All right, we're back. We're not halfway through the ride yet, so we got to make sure we keep the energy high.

So I went with Rocket off of Siamese Dream by the Smashing Pumpkins.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:42:14.850 - 00:42:15.330

Nice.

Colin True

00:42:15.410 - 00:42:39.030

Other songs, I thought, you know, this is when Tool showed up sober. Just great. While youe're Active song verses came out this year. So Animals, a great song. The Breeders. You mentioned the Breeders. This is the year.

The year of Cannonball, which again, another one that still, I think, hits as hard in 2025 as it did in 1993. And then, you know, I was thinking Cracker had kerosene hat this year too. And I do love you're a Trash Girl. And I love that song.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:42:39.030 - 00:42:40.590

I fucking love that song. Yes.

Colin True

00:42:40.590 - 00:42:46.270

That song rules. So, wow, 1994. What do we got?

Shawnté Salabert

00:42:46.830 - 00:42:51.950

1994. I knew I had to pick something from this album. That is Liz Fair's Whip Smart album.

Colin True

00:42:52.040 - 00:42:52.200

And.

Shawnté Salabert

00:42:52.270 - 00:43:01.230

And I went with. Even though I love the title track, I mean, I love the whole album.

It's one of those albums I still play front to back in the car, But I picked Go West, Deeper cut.

Chris DeMakes

00:43:01.230 - 00:43:05.150

I Closed My Eyes and my bank Account.

Shawnté Salabert

00:43:09.390 - 00:43:52.690

So, first of all, Liz Phair is iconic. Her previous album Exile and Guyville was fantastic.

And the deeply underrated follow up to Whip Smart, which was 1998's White Chocolate Space Egg, all one word, are both absolutely fantastic.

Still, all time car listening, and to be honest, I'm probably making my friends listen to this entire album in the car, but we're gonna laser in on Go west, like I said, where she's like, ah, fuck it. Peace out, old life, hello, new life.

It's a song about being brave, about stepping into the unknown, or maybe just about taking a very long drive when you're bored with life. But either way, I love the idea of movement as a way to shake things up in your life.

And so what better way to move than, you know, walk a bunch of miles with your friends in a pretty place while having deep conversations? Nations go west, young man or young women.

Colin True

00:43:53.250 - 00:43:54.570

What do you got, Doug for 94?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:43:54.570 - 00:43:56.530

Oh, they had to be in here. Beastie Boys.

Shawnté Salabert

00:43:56.930 - 00:43:57.410

Yes.

Colin True

00:43:58.770 - 00:44:01.210

Which one? Because I have three of them in.

Shawnté Salabert

00:44:01.210 - 00:44:02.770

My honor, frothing at the mouth.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:44:04.050 - 00:44:09.490

Have some beasties. Live for the beasties. And for this one, we're going with Bodhisattva Vow.

Colin True

00:44:17.740 - 00:44:20.940

Oh, wow. Okay, we're at the top of the ride.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:44:20.940 - 00:45:10.290

We're at the top of the ride. We're going to come down and obviously a tribute to mca, who is just so incredible.

And you know, the thing about the VCs is people wanted to just box him in to be a bunch of jackasses. And they weren't going to do that, especially. MCA was so creative.

And he was also a Tibetan Buddhist, was really involved with the Free Tibet movement and getting things there. And Bodhisattva Vow is actually.

It's a song that's got that same kind of BC feel to it, but it's a really serious song about the Bodhisattva Vow, which is the commitment to put others before oneself. It is a statement of willingness to give up one's own well being, even one's own enlightenment for the sake of others.

And we need some of that shit right now. We need MCA right now.

And that idea that we can make great music, have great rides and we can make our life's purpose to be care for other people, people.

Colin True

00:45:10.770 - 00:45:12.770

Your bike ride's getting pretty spiritual over here.

Shawnté Salabert

00:45:13.010 - 00:45:15.730

Well, that's Doug. This is basically an open container intro.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:45:16.530 - 00:45:19.210

Come ride with me, Come ride with me I.

Colin True

00:45:19.210 - 00:45:35.970

It was hard. I mean, come on. This is a big year for the Beastie boys. But in 1994, I was a college radio DJ, which some say eventually manifested itself as.

I sit here on a microphone with the two of you today. And that was also the year that I discovered ska and punk rock.

Shawnté Salabert

00:45:36.630 - 00:45:37.590

That's when it happened.

Colin True

00:45:37.830 - 00:45:53.470

The Mighty, mighty Boss Tones question. The answers came out and so I wanted to go pictures to prove it. Which was the song that truly got me into my favorite genre of music.

But you can't argue with Fat Mike. So I went with Linoleum by no fx because this is the year that punk in Drublic came out.

Chris DeMakes

00:45:53.470 - 00:45:55.910

It's never meant anything to me.

Colin True

00:45:56.710 - 00:45:57.990

I'm not crazy.

Chris DeMakes

00:45:58.230 - 00:45:59.470

Well, that's not true.

Colin True

00:45:59.470 - 00:46:15.160

I've Got A Bed, which is an all time classic punk album. So I went with no effects there. But I mean, you know, this is also Beck. Yellow Gold came out. So Loser was a.

Was a consideration that I had, you know, Root down or sure Shot, even Sabotage for the Beasties.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:46:15.160 - 00:46:15.840

Yeah, yeah.

Colin True

00:46:15.840 - 00:46:37.820

Sound Garden, Super Unknown. You have Head down and Spoon Man, Bad Religion release Stranger Than Fiction this year. Alice in Chains, Dirt no, Excuse Me, Jar of Flies.

So I stay away. So just again, the embarrassment of Rishes of the early 90s keep on coming. So but Linoleum for me here.

And that will be A theme for several of my next picks.

Shawnté Salabert

00:46:38.300 - 00:46:39.180

Floor coverings.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:46:39.340 - 00:46:41.340

That's a great choice. I love that flooring.

Colin True

00:46:43.340 - 00:46:47.260

Flooring, yes, flooring. Exactly. This is carpet. You familiar?

Shawnté Salabert

00:46:48.060 - 00:46:49.660

Have you heard of wood panels?

Colin True

00:46:52.780 - 00:49:26.870

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Shawnté Salabert

00:49:26.870 - 00:49:28.590

1995 Right in the middle here.

Colin True

00:49:28.590 - 00:49:30.640

You're halfway to the trail.

Shawnté Salabert

00:49:30.640 - 00:49:59.920

Halfway to the trail now. I mean what can I say? 95 was a real banner year for the ladies and apparently for songs with, let's just say wet connotations.

So you had TLC's waterfalls, which I considered excellent song. I once did a routine to that at the Boys and Girls Club. It really was great song. PJ Harvey down by the Water. Just Chef's Kiss.

That whole album is incredible. And I'd honestly even throw in holes. Violet since that opening line. The sky was all made of amethyst. Always made me think of summer thunderstorms.

It was.

Colin True

00:49:59.920 - 00:50:03.900

I think holes become like underrated. If I'm being honest at this point. Like don't think so.

Shawnté Salabert

00:50:03.900 - 00:50:08.700

I also think people just on Courtney Love as a song album. But he didn't.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:50:08.860 - 00:50:12.700

I think she's getting. I think it's coming. People are realizing now Hole's getting a lot more.

Colin True

00:50:12.700 - 00:50:13.660

I hope so. I love.

Shawnté Salabert

00:50:13.740 - 00:50:38.260

Yeah. I mean they. That whole Patty, Melissa, Eric, that whole band was just incredible. They were like just fantastic.

I think they got on because everybody had to hate on Courtney because of Kurt. But I. I still. I will always stand up for her music. I've actually seen her perform live and she's still got it. But.

But the song I'm going for for 1995 is garbage. I'm Only Happy When It Rains. Self titled debut.

Chris DeMakes

00:50:38.580 - 00:50:45.380

I'm Only Happy When It Rains. I'm only happy when it's complicated.

Shawnté Salabert

00:50:46.900 - 00:51:16.190

First of all, you know this is a car sing along banger. But second, I find that the only way to deal with being wet in the backcountry is by being in on the big cosmic joke of it all.

Of just hanging out in the pouring rain. Yep. Oh, it makes me happy.

Make an unplanned glissade down a snowy snow Brimming with joy Falling your ass in a frigid creek Positively beaming with sunshine.

I think it's really good to just lie to yourself a little bit before you get caught out in the storm with nothing but a beat up delaminated rain jacket between you and the elements. So I'm only happy when it rains.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:51:16.270 - 00:51:16.750

Love it.

Colin True

00:51:16.750 - 00:51:22.670

I saw Garbage open for the Smashing Pumpkins I think in probably 1995.

Shawnté Salabert

00:51:22.990 - 00:51:23.470

Wow.

Colin True

00:51:23.790 - 00:51:29.070

And they were way better live than the Smashing Pumpkins. Notoriously not a Great live band.

Shawnté Salabert

00:51:29.390 - 00:51:29.870

Yeah.

Colin True

00:51:31.810 - 00:51:32.530

What do you got, Doug?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:51:32.690 - 00:51:59.560

Oh, I got a big, big 90s band here who we have not hit yet. We need some Radiohead for the ride down. Yeah, we're gonna have to ride down. I have had this song as soon as I made this playlist.

Now I've just had this song stuck in my head all day. I've been blasting it around. It's so freaking good. The Bends, I think is the best Radiohead album and just is a song you just have to blast.

Go downhill, fly through. Single track, love it.

Shawnté Salabert

00:52:06.360 - 00:52:11.240

I can feel the joy of that, but also the ennui. Like a little bit of fun.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:52:11.240 - 00:52:14.440

Play a clip. Play the clip now, Colin, play the clip.

Colin True

00:52:15.880 - 00:53:12.760

I'm gonna keep my punk thing going because this is the year that and Outcome the Wolves came out by Rancid, which is, I think top 15 album for me, probably this. I chose Journey to the End of East Bay. Of the East Bay, which is a song about Tim Armstrong's time in Operation Ivy.

So it's sort of like smuggling another ska punk song onto the list in a ways. But Scott Ception, that's just another album I could just listen to, start to finish every day of my life and be very happy doing it.

And so that's where I went there. This is we at the year we got the presidency of the United States of America. So I really thought about Peaches.

Cause like a little comedy sometimes when you're suffering on a bike is a good idea. The Twist Inside by Everclear is one of my all time favorite songs.

I have a soft spot for Name by the Goo Goo Dolls, which came out this year, I think Drown by Sunvolt, another great song. And then Matthew Sweet, sick of myself, 100% fun this year that came out. Those are all the ones I considered, but I went with Rancid.

Shawnté Salabert

00:53:13.080 - 00:53:19.390

You know what I once saw? We work with Rancid at my day job. And Tim once did an unplugged set at Hotel Caf.

Colin True

00:53:20.580 - 00:53:21.780

He's great. Unplugged.

Shawnté Salabert

00:53:21.780 - 00:53:29.540

Quite great, actually. Yeah, very impressive. He also kind of. I didn't realize it until seeing him in person, but he kind of looks like Frank Sinatra's illegitimate son.

Colin True

00:53:30.180 - 00:53:31.420

Did he have his beard at the time?

Shawnté Salabert

00:53:31.420 - 00:53:33.780

He had a fedora going. Yeah, it was great.

Colin True

00:53:34.260 - 00:53:37.860

Interesting. All right, next time that happens, please, I expect my invite.

Shawnté Salabert

00:53:38.100 - 00:53:43.460

Don't worry. Yeah. Retroactively. I would invite you if I could, but it was years ago. I didn't know you then, Colin.

Colin True

00:53:44.260 - 00:54:03.680

So there's where the decade definitely shifts. I Feel like I noticed this in the list and you start to notice the influence of other genres. It's just not quite.

I'm not gonna say it's not as strong. There's a lot of great music obviously in the second half of the decade and I'm really excited about some of my.

The things I got to talk about that I'm going to get to talk about. But definitely felt different. Feel like starting in 96, you guys felt that too.

Shawnté Salabert

00:54:04.320 - 00:55:05.000

Yeah, there is a shift here, I mean, I think but that's, that's what happens in music. We saw the shift going into the 90s and then into the middle and yeah, I think we're gonna, we're. We're in a shift now.

And I think my, maybe my choice for 96 reflects that. So again, staying on my theme of things tangentially related to backpacking.

So if there is a single artist who feels like they probably live under a polka dotted mushroom in some sort of enchanted woodland, it's Bjork. And so I chose Hyper ballad from post incredible album. One of my favorite songs of all time.

But also, I mean, she starts the song by talking about living on top of a mountain with excellent views. I mean, yes, she is committing a moral leave no trace sin while she's up there just whipping cutlery off the top and all.

But to be fair, she was working through some stuff just like Cheryl Strayed. But I also have to give honorable mention from oh so Quiet from that album.

Colin True

00:55:05.080 - 00:55:06.120

Yes, great song.

Shawnté Salabert

00:55:06.120 - 00:55:20.940

Which totally different kind of song. But you know, no shit, it's pretty quiet out there in the woods when you're lucky.

And I'm going to give a second honorable mention to Caught a Light Sneeze by Tori Amos since it seems like I always have a runny nose up at altitude.

Colin True

00:55:20.940 - 00:55:25.700

So I thought about Tori in the spot. I had a major Tori moment in the mid-90s.

Shawnté Salabert

00:55:25.940 - 00:55:33.900

Oh my gosh, she's fantastic. I mean she's always been such an excellent. Just. She's a very literary. To me, a very literary artist. She's an incredible storyteller.

Colin True

00:55:33.900 - 00:55:35.300

All right, Doug, who you got for 96?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:55:35.540 - 00:56:18.110

For 96 I gotta go with my boys Wilco most of all. Cause we want Jeff Tweedy on Open Container.

But also cause Being There is a freaking masterpiece of an album that is not as well recognized as good as it is. Just an incredible album. I remember first hearing it and you know, being all excited like everyone else. I was like, oh, Sunvault's great.

You know, J. Ferrar's great. I love Donkey Tupelo, but one of my favorite bands. I'm going with the song Monday off of being there.

It's gonna keep that high going when you're coming down. Single track, track. You know, after listening to the radio head, you're onto Wilco Monday. Just a barn blasting. Great song 96.

Colin True

00:56:18.270 - 00:57:04.060

I had a bunch of things on here that I really liked and definitely sort of in my wheelhouse and the sort of ska and punk. We had real big fish that year.

This lesson, Jake's first big release, Second release, but kind of, you know, this first night started a couple songs they still play now, but I went with Eels, Novocaine for the Soul. Oh, the Beautiful Freak, which is one of my all time favorite songs.

I started thinking, you're getting a little tired of that bike ride and you need that needle drop at the beginning of the song when it just comes in really hard at that point and it's like. It's not like a banger. Hard rocking song. But there's a pick me up to it that I feel when I listen to it. Another song. Where.

Where are we on Dave Matthews Band these days, guys?

Shawnté Salabert

00:57:06.420 - 00:57:09.100

Where have we ever been on Dave Matthews till the podcast?

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:57:09.100 - 00:57:09.540

It's over.

Shawnté Salabert

00:57:09.700 - 00:57:13.700

Crash is a beautiful song. You're fired.

Colin True

00:57:14.500 - 00:57:33.630

I had El Scorcho from Weezer in Contention and Two Step by Dave Matthews Band, which is a great fucking song. Fuck you both. All right. Also leave the biker Fountains of Wayne. That came out. Wow. I've gone around. I was on Dave Matthews. I was on the team.

And I'm like, oh, my God, this is terrible. Everyone's right. Then I'm like, you know what? Actually I do like Dave Matthews Band. I'm back.

Shawnté Salabert

00:57:34.900 - 00:57:38.420

I can't wait till you start like talking about Creed and Nickelback on here.

Colin True

00:57:38.740 - 00:57:51.940

I. I think that is an unfair comparison. No way do you put DMB in the same conversation with Creed. You could say that they're bro y frat boy music, but they're not really. That's the thing.

Those other bands are. So. How dare you? How dare you.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:57:51.940 - 00:57:55.380

We gotta cleanse. We gotta cleanse the palette now. Shantae. Let's cleanse it. Let's cleanse it.

Colin True

00:57:55.380 - 00:57:56.260

97.

Shawnté Salabert

00:57:56.660 - 00:58:19.240

All right, all right. We're gonna cleanse it pretty hard here. I'm gonna cleanse it in a really different direction. Direction we're gonna cleanse. Okay.

So my palette cleanser for 1997. So I chose one of my favorite all time car songs. Whenever I'm going on a road Trip or heading some anywhere adventurous. It's Indigo Girls.

Get out the map from shame.

Colin True

00:58:20.360 - 00:58:20.840

Yes.

Shawnté Salabert

00:58:27.290 - 00:59:45.760

Now I swamp Ophelia to me as a much superior album, but that's not a 1997 album. Shaming in the sun is a fun one. It was their commercial crossover in a lot of ways. But this is just a happy song. I enjoy the path less taken.

My friends and I are probably going to get a little adventurous on this trip. Probably heading off trail into some high alpine basin. And you know what you need when you leave the beaten path, guys?

A keen sense of direction and a map. You should get it out. This has actually been one of my go to road trips, so songs when I'm doing solo trips, just, you know, to.

To get all Lilith Fair about it just melted out of the top of my lungs. I mean, I remember. I remember doing exactly that when I took my very first.

So I had my very first breakup with my very first serious boyfriend one summer. I did not have a CD player in my stylin hatchback Ford Pinto that I had just bought for my stepdad's work buddy.

So I popped this CD into my boombox, which was sitting on the passenger seat, and Indigo Girls my ass all the way to the Smoky Mountains from Wisconsin, which is a very long drive, especially when you have youthful tears and rage.

Yeah, a strong contender here, especially if I was doing a solo road trip, would have been Sleeter Kinney's Dig Me out from the album the same name, which is just a fantastic one of their earlier raw albums. Just a nice soundtrack for Cat hole digging as well.

Doug Schnitzspahn

00:59:46.640 - 01:00:50.870

Well, I dug that cat hole, baby. I went with Corin Tucker, Carrie Brownstein, Slater Kinney. Freaking incredible, you know, royalty of riot grrrls.

Same album I went with Turn It On, Another just freaking rocking song. I mean, what did I hear? Once someone said Corinth had a bazooka of a voice, which I loved. You know, I saw them. I saw them.

You know, I stood about like 4ft away from Carrie at the Crocodile once and saw them play. 1990s, probably around 97, 98, you know, time I was mountain biking quite a bit in the Cascades. Just an absolutely amazing.

And then Carrie's even more amazing because all of a sudden she's doing like incredible sketch comedy in Portlandia, you know, making fun of the way we're being now. Little geeks about music and everything. Anything else? Hell yeah. Still blasting music on the downhill technical single track here.

Shawnté Salabert

01:00:50.950 - 01:01:23.970

Oh, my God, I love. I love that you picked a Slater kidney. That Is so like that is the band. That is why I started playing the drums.

It was specifically the album One Beat, which I actually got shortlisted to write a 33 and a third book about back in the day. Didn't get picked for the final, but yeah, man, they are still one of my favorite bands.

You know, I have a soft spot for those albums from the, you know, the late 90s, early aughts like the woods is. Which is a great talk about Corrin's voice on that one. The way she just belts.

Colin True

01:01:24.610 - 01:01:27.970

Anyway, sounds like you should have taken Slater, Kenny.

Shawnté Salabert

01:01:29.010 - 01:01:32.930

I'm glad Doug did. I'm glad we got to take Team Back it up again on this.

Colin True

01:01:33.890 - 01:02:27.430

Well, I considered for 1997 legitimately consider taking tub thumping by Tumblewing because it would have been hilarious. And honestly, that song kind of rips. And at this point in my ride, I probably could use a little hate.

When I get knocked down I get back up again but instead I need to smile a little bit. And I was thinking about getting Mexican food from Sombrero. So I went with Josie by Blink182 off their debut album, Dude Ranch.

Anyway, no, just that I needed kind of a nice light pick me up song that was also kind of a hard charging tune. So I went with Blink. I love that record. When that came out, it kind of kind of solidified my love of the genre of music. So. So I was like.

I guess the other.

Oh, and the other one I really considered was Motorcycle Drive by by A Third Eye Blind, which I think is a great song and kind of sneaky motivational. So we'll get into more third ey blind in a minute, but let's talk about 1998.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:02:27.670 - 01:02:31.910

I'm hoping that Shantae and I have the same album here. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. Let's see, let's see.

Shawnté Salabert

01:02:31.910 - 01:02:33.070

Oh my gosh. For 98.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:02:33.070 - 01:02:34.230

Come on, come on, bring it.

Shawnté Salabert

01:02:34.870 - 01:03:44.860

I have a feeling we do because we have great taste. Doug. My. My pick for 1998 is one of the best albums of the year. And it's a decade, in my opinion. Opinion, yes. Lauryn Hill.

Everything is everything from the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Oh, my God. She. I. I love that. For a simple refrain. The song is not. It's not a complex song in a lot of ways, but the song has so much depth.

And I think one of my favorite things when I go backpacking with friends is falling into that deep conversation, whether it's while you're actually hiking or, you know, when you're settled in at camp. And I. I've always thought of H as sort of a walking meditation anyways.

And then when you add good friends to the mix, it's almost like group therapy in a way.

So for all of the dirty talk out there, I am always glad for those more profound conversations where it seems as though, just for a second, you've all got it kind of figured out. And this song is one of those songs for me that she's just like, hey, listen, this song's for you out there, kids. And, you know, it's.

It's a hopeful song in a lot of ways, but it does have some real depth to it and just Chef's Kiss. And I cannot wait to hear what your choice is.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:03:45.260 - 01:04:12.330

That would be up there. It's one of my favorite songs of all time, too. It's put it on a lot of mixes recently. I mean, in that album. I mean, it still holds up so well.

It's so great. You know, I thought about putting some Fujis on. You know, I love Wyclef Jean and all that too, but this has got to be on there.

And I think you're in the euphoria stage of your mountain bike ride now, and I can put on a song that just has a killer intro. One of my favorite intros. And now that I've put it on the mix again, it's been in my head all day. Every ghetto, every city, Hell yes.

Chris DeMakes

01:04:12.570 - 01:04:20.410

I was just a little girl Skinny legs, depressing curl. My mother always thought I'd be a star.

Shawnté Salabert

01:04:21.450 - 01:04:27.850

Yes. Yes. Good one, ma'. Am. You almost make me want to listen to your playlist while I'm doing an actual activity.

Colin True

01:04:29.210 - 01:04:32.970

Do you guys want to get your own podcast? You want to just kind of peel off and go do your own thing?

Shawnté Salabert

01:04:33.290 - 01:04:33.930

Sounds good.

Colin True

01:04:35.530 - 01:04:35.900

Wow.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:04:35.970 - 01:04:36.370

Wow.

Shawnté Salabert

01:04:38.130 - 01:04:39.810

Pickle in the middle, musically.

Colin True

01:04:41.890 - 01:05:30.430

Well, I. This is actually where I considered putting my favorite Madonna song of all time, which is Rayaville. I didn't say it's her best song.

It's my favorite Madonna song. I think that's an underrated album. It's kind of like, I don't know what's happened to Madonna since then.

I haven't really paid attention, but I think that song rules. And I actually had it slotted into my playlist to see how it transitioned in and out from Josie to my last choice, but it didn't work very well.

So for the sake of the ride, I went with Remote Control by the Beastie Boys. Nasty, you know, intergalactic, and Fat Boy Slim's version of Body Moving kind of get all the glory, I feel like, from that record.

But I think Remote Control is just as good as those songs. So went with Beasties. Plus they're runners up in a few other years.

Shawnté Salabert

01:05:30.680 - 01:05:39.240

For me, it's good that they got. They got a spotlight. We love those boys, especially Doug and I. We'll talk about up on her new podcast.

Colin True

01:05:39.400 - 01:05:43.560

So I just feel like it's very patronizing where you're just trying to keep me in the conversation now. All right.

Shawnté Salabert

01:05:47.000 - 01:05:49.640

Listen, you're doing the deep.

Colin True

01:05:49.640 - 01:05:54.520

B sides off of that, the eps that came off of this in the second quarter of this one.

Shawnté Salabert

01:05:55.320 - 01:05:58.200

Are you saying that we're the Jack Black character? I'm saying you are the Jack.

Colin True

01:05:58.200 - 01:06:00.950

You were the. You were the Barry Dicks of this podcast.

Shawnté Salabert

01:06:01.990 - 01:06:05.710

Listen, Colin, I'm about to bring you up for my 1999 pick. So let's do it.

Colin True

01:06:05.710 - 01:06:11.670

1999, last pick. This is it. How do we close out the 90s? End our activity or a car ride, as it were, for you?

Shawnté Salabert

01:06:11.910 - 01:06:26.070

All right, so for me, this is the song we're playing right as we pull up to the trailhead. And it's not about lyrics. Yeah. It's like it's all about vibes, it's all about energy. And it is Latigra's Decepticon from their self titled album.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:06:33.090 - 01:06:33.970

Yes. Great song.

Shawnté Salabert

01:06:35.170 - 01:07:21.380

So as we prepare to leave the 90s. Oh my God, it's such a good song. As we prepare to leave the 90s and civilization behind. It's the perfect mesh of for me, riot girl and dance music.

It's angular, it's irreverent, punky fun.

It's a bunch of cool women, including Kathleen Hannah of Bikini Kill, just having the best time, which is basically what I'm going to be out there doing with my girls. And it's apparently also a secret diss track again against Fat Mike from no Effects.

That is great because the 19 listen, the 1997 no effects song Kill Rock Stars name checks Kathleen Hannah and essentially calls her a man hater. So whatever, bro. Listen, Fat Mike, maybe you should go touch grass or something or go on a bike ride with Colin.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:07:21.460 - 01:07:39.560

Also Kathleen Hannah. Kathleen Hannah, you know, in relationship with Mike D. So we've got, you know, Beastie Boys back in here. Kathleen Hannah. Also Kathleen Hannah.

Also the song that we stayed away from, the biggest song of the 90s, Smells Like Teen Spirit, came from Kathleen Hannah. The title did so.

Shawnté Salabert

01:07:39.720 - 01:07:40.280

Yep.

Colin True

01:07:41.320 - 01:07:49.120

I just like that there's diss tracks in other Genres. I feel like, you know, rap has sort of had it monopolized all this time. It's nice to know that, like, that's happening. I'm just excited about that.

That's great.

Shawnté Salabert

01:07:49.120 - 01:07:58.750

And I loved it because when I was. When I was picking that, I was like, wait, did I see a no Effect song? And then I saw that you'd put linoleum, and I was like, perfect.

Perfect on many levels to close with this one.

Colin True

01:07:59.710 - 01:08:01.230

All right, Doug, how you closing out the.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:08:02.270 - 01:08:06.830

I will now sell five copies of the three eps by the Beta Band.

Colin True

01:08:13.710 - 01:08:15.070

By the Beta Band.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:08:15.070 - 01:08:32.120

How could we not have kind of love that song? About music snobbery and music without a reference. We've already had several. But books, records, films, these things matter.

Beta Band, Drive the Rain. I'm going to see the Beta Band in October in Denver, which is going to be really fun.

Colin True

01:08:32.680 - 01:09:28.510

Well, my song is an absolute closer, and the singer and main songwriter in the song might be one of the toughest hangs to come out of the 1990s. And that would be Steven Jenkins and Third Eye Blind, because I went with Wounded off the album Blue. But it's a song that you just kind of.

It's kind of a bit of a problematic song, really, but it's. But it's one of those. You can just blare while crossing the finish line. You know, wrapping it up, it could just be like, it's.

You can wrap up a movie with it. You can wrap up, you know, your bike ride with it. You wrap up anything with it.

It's just one of those songs where you can see the credits rolling while you are listening to it.

And so for your cruising that final downhill back to your car, I went with probably my favorite Third Eye Bly song, Third Eye Blind, if I'm being honest. So not a lot of other songs to consider like, that I really was excited about, if I'm being honest. Wendy clear's great Blink 182 song.

And I do like Other side by the Chili Peppers. Callous, the Year of Californication.

Shawnté Salabert

01:09:29.230 - 01:09:30.830

Least favorite Chili Peppers album.

Colin True

01:09:31.630 - 01:09:39.070

It's. I'm gonna. I don't have a favorite Chili Peppers album that isn't like Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Yeah. I mean, that's.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:09:41.870 - 01:09:42.310

Sorry.

Colin True

01:09:42.310 - 01:09:44.130

Well, there we go, guys. I think we did it.

Shawnté Salabert

01:09:44.450 - 01:09:45.810

We did. Somehow.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:09:46.210 - 01:09:46.730

Well done.

Shawnté Salabert

01:09:46.730 - 01:09:50.050

I guess we're still. Doug and I got our own podcast out of it, so.

Colin True

01:09:50.050 - 01:09:56.210

That's awesome. I think you should. We should really. You know, I think it's a thing. I got to start deep diving music podcasts. See how you guys would fit into this.

Shawnté Salabert

01:09:56.530 - 01:09:57.850

Doug, what's the website you bought?

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:09:57.850 - 01:10:04.610

Ninetiestalgia90stalgia90stalgia.com. That's the name of our podcastalgia.com. we're there. Let's have our ninetiestalgia podcast.

Shawnté Salabert

01:10:04.610 - 01:10:06.530

But we'll have to have Colin on the pod too.

Colin True

01:10:07.330 - 01:10:33.210

All right, that's the show. We do want your emails on this. I mean, I could see this being as kind of like one for us, but even if it is, there's one for us.

We're gonna do it again. Cause that was really fun.

So send your emails to myrockfightmail.com the Rock Fight's a production of Rock Fight LLC for Shante Salibert and Doug Schnitzbahn, aka Barry and Dick. I'm Colin True. Thanks for listening. And here to take us out, it's Krista Banks. Do people watch? People know High Fidelity, right?

Young people know High fidelity. Whatever. Watch High Fidelity.

Doug Schnitzspahn

01:10:33.210 - 01:10:35.050

Zoe Kravitz. They might know the Zoe Kravitz.

Shawnté Salabert

01:10:35.050 - 01:10:35.370

Thanks.

Colin True

01:10:35.370 - 01:10:38.410

Put the Rock fight Fight song. We'll see you next time, Rock fighters.

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01:10:38.410 - 01:11:38.800

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