Wednesdays mean adventure here on THE ROCK FIGHT (an outdoor podcast that aims for the head) and Colin & Justin open the show by celebrating this past Sunday's National Coffee Day with THE ROCK FIGHT's official National Coffee Day Quiz! Because, you know, coffee is our greatest adventure beverage (or something).
Then they discuss the lasting impact of Hurricane Helene, how Mount Rainier's summit has moved and gotten shorter and then react to two new stories to come out of space.
They of course wrap things up with their Parting Shots where Justin encourages good behavior while Colin takes Fox Racing to task.
Donate to Hurricane Helene relief efforts by clicking here!
Links to help via the Appalachian Trail Conservancy!
Chapters:
00:08 - Intro to Rock Fight
02:19 - National Coffee Day Quiz
07:05 - Hurricane Helene's Outdoor and Adventure Impact
13:07 - Mount Rainier Summit Shift
23:24 - Black Hole Plumes and Asteroid Defense
28:16 - Parting Shots
29:39 - Outro - The Rock Fight Fight Song
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Episode Transcript
Chris DeMakes
00:00:00.120 - 00:00:07.490
Rock fight. Rock flight. Rock flight. Rock flight. Rock flight. Rock flight.
Colin True
00:00:08.270 - 00:00:23.090
Welcome to the Rock fight, where we speak our truth, slay sacred cows, and sometimes agree to disagree. This is an outdoor podcast that aims for the head. I'm Colin Truan, joining me today. First he drinks the coffee, and then he does the pod.
It's Justin Housman.
Justin Housman
00:00:23.950 - 00:00:34.380
Good morning, Colin. I thought you were maybe going for some kind of weird. There might be blood reference there, but, like a milkshake sort of deal.
First he drinks the coffee, then he.
Colin True
00:00:34.760 - 00:00:35.272
Yes.
Justin Housman
00:00:35.336 - 00:00:35.872
I don't know.
Colin True
00:00:35.936 - 00:00:38.060
Is that the line? Is that when he talks about the milkshake?
Justin Housman
00:00:39.280 - 00:00:40.696
Maybe not. I can't remember.
Colin True
00:00:40.808 - 00:00:41.968
It's a first movie, though.
Justin Housman
00:00:42.024 - 00:00:43.576
Maybe not. I've only seen it once.
Colin True
00:00:43.608 - 00:01:16.450
Me too. But really good. Well, hey, before we get today's show, we got a few housekeeping reminders for you.
Please follow and rate the Rock fight wherever you're listening on any podcast app, your favorite podcast app. Even. Leave us that five star rating and click follow. And hey, are you following our other podcasts on the Rock Fight podcast network.
It's called Gear and Beer. Last week, Justin rated gear as over, under or properly rated. You can follow and you can rate gear and beer.
It's only ever properly, though, when you rate gear and beer. Wherever you're listening to the rock fight. And Justin, if any of our listeners would like to reach out to us, you know, what should they do?
Justin Housman
00:01:17.150 - 00:01:20.942
How come the notes don't have Instagram on here, Colin?
Colin True
00:01:21.046 - 00:01:30.538
Oh, I'll add it, right, because I copied and pasted it from another outline and forgot Instagram. Yeah, it's on there now.
Justin Housman
00:01:30.594 - 00:01:54.512
While he's filling out. While he's filling out that on the Google Doc that we share, folks, you can email us@myrockfightmail.com. you can visit us over on Instagram.
Occite Co. That'sockfight. Co. And you should very, very soon go to our website and join the mailing list to get our newsletter. It comes out every Sunday.
Uh, it's the best outdoor newsletter you're gonna get.
Colin True
00:01:54.576 - 00:01:55.344
Oh, hi.
Justin Housman
00:01:55.432 - 00:02:14.464
Since I stopped writing the ones for Adventure Journal. Um, but following, you know, other than that, this is the one. This is the one you want. It's really fun. Nice, nice little Sunday afternoon.
Like, if maybe comes out, like, while you're taking a break from morning and afternoon football games, you read, uh, you read this, or if you don't watch football, that's fine. You have more time to read it. But either way, join the mailing list.
Colin True
00:02:14.592 - 00:02:26.884
Well, I wanted to kick things off because despite the fact that I'm morally opposed to daily.
The daily national holidays, like, you know, every single day there's a different, like, apparently it was like, national, like, daughter's day last week. Sure, yeah.
Justin Housman
00:02:26.932 - 00:02:28.588
National donut Day. Happens all.
Colin True
00:02:28.644 - 00:02:47.652
Every day's got a day. I hate those things. But I'm morally in favor of coffee and the role coffee plays in our outdoorsy lifestyles. I know you're a coffee enthusiast also.
So yesterday, Sunday the 29th, when we're recording this, obviously on Monday the 30th, it was National Coffee Day. And so, Justin, I want to know, are you ready to take the rock fights official national coffee day quiz?
Justin Housman
00:02:47.836 - 00:02:54.260
I don't know if you can ever be ready for something like this. I am caffeinated, so that seems important. I have coffee breath. That seems good.
Colin True
00:02:54.340 - 00:02:59.700
I think we've talked about you're a sister and you're an official beer expert. Certified. And I think you would choose coffee over beer.
Justin Housman
00:02:59.820 - 00:03:01.116
What do you mean? In what situation?
Colin True
00:03:01.188 - 00:03:03.028
Meaning you can only have one for the rest of your life.
Justin Housman
00:03:03.084 - 00:03:22.198
Oh, God. Geez. God, no. I don't know. I'd probably. I think I'd choose beer. I enjoy beer more than I like. I have to have coffee. Yeah, I don't have to have beer.
I just really like it.
Colin True
00:03:22.214 - 00:03:24.238
That's my point. This is why coffee wins.
Justin Housman
00:03:24.414 - 00:03:46.158
Yeah, I guess you're right. But I feel like. You know what, though?
You know how sometimes you're sick for, like, three days and you, like, don't drink coffee and it's, like, fine? Like, I think. I think. I have a feeling if I just quit cold turkey, it would be a really rough couple days, and then I'd just be okay.
I mean, I could obviously do it with beer, even though I drink too much, but I can. Yeah. I feel like. I feel like if I could replace coffee with, like, this is really entertaining.
Colin True
00:03:46.174 - 00:03:47.590
To watch you work through these emotions.
Justin Housman
00:03:47.630 - 00:04:01.016
I'm thinking about it. I take these questions so seriously. Like, this is not hypothetical.
Like, in my mind, there's like, a gun to my head, and I'm having to figure it out right now. Like, that's how serious I'm taking this question. I think I'd probably say I'd rather have beer, but it would be tough. Yeah.
Colin True
00:04:01.168 - 00:04:01.544
Yeah.
Justin Housman
00:04:01.592 - 00:04:11.216
Like, nothing can replace. To me, like, afternoon, you had, like, a long day, and you're relaxing with a beer. I mean, nothing can beat that.
I mean, hot coffee in the morning's great, but I feel like I could find a replacement.
Colin True
00:04:11.248 - 00:04:16.296
Yeah, that's how I feel. About coffee in the morning, like. Cause I don't get headaches if I don't drink it. If I miss it, it's fine.
Justin Housman
00:04:16.488 - 00:04:17.780
You just never miss it.
Colin True
00:04:18.360 - 00:04:19.440
Well, that's mostly true.
Justin Housman
00:04:19.480 - 00:04:24.388
You'll get headaches if you just always drink it. I get headaches in the afternoon, have my 03:00 coffee.
Colin True
00:04:24.524 - 00:04:26.412
I don't get withdrawal symptoms.
Justin Housman
00:04:26.596 - 00:04:30.668
It's great. I'm just always doing meth. I don't miss it at all.
Colin True
00:04:30.764 - 00:04:38.132
But if I. There's a lot of days I plan, like, oh, I should have a beer today, then I just don't. And I don't really care.
But if I don't have coffee in the morning, it's like, oh, God, I gotta go have some coffee. So.
Justin Housman
00:04:38.196 - 00:04:38.836
Yeah, no, you're right.
Colin True
00:04:38.868 - 00:04:40.764
Having coffee, but, yeah, I don't want.
Justin Housman
00:04:40.772 - 00:04:43.316
To have to ever face that. So let's just pretend that that's never.
Colin True
00:04:43.348 - 00:04:44.260
Have this have this happen.
Justin Housman
00:04:44.300 - 00:04:45.012
Yeah. Yeah.
Colin True
00:04:45.036 - 00:04:48.800
Well. So, Justin, do you know why National Coffee day is held on September 29?
Justin Housman
00:04:49.380 - 00:04:51.708
Oh, my gosh. No. Good question. Okay.
Colin True
00:04:51.724 - 00:04:56.812
Well, it's the day that the US received its first shipment of coffee ever. Huh.
Justin Housman
00:04:56.916 - 00:04:58.228
I guess I could have guessed that.
Colin True
00:04:58.364 - 00:05:06.036
Here's where you can take a real good guess. Like, what year do you think that was? I'll give you a hint. The United States was not officially recognized as a country.
Justin Housman
00:05:06.228 - 00:05:15.436
Okay. I was gonna say, it's probably, like, your first thought is gonna be, well, we drank tea back then.
Maybe we didn't get it till, like, this could be those things where it's, like, way later than you'd think.
Colin True
00:05:15.548 - 00:05:19.564
I would have said, like, 18 something. I would have said 1800. So it's pre revolutionary war.
Justin Housman
00:05:19.732 - 00:05:23.964
I mean, honestly, I think. Let's go, like, 1712.
Colin True
00:05:24.132 - 00:05:25.972
Pretty close. 1723.
Justin Housman
00:05:26.156 - 00:05:26.516
Yeah.
Colin True
00:05:26.548 - 00:05:27.680
That's a good guess.
Justin Housman
00:05:28.980 - 00:05:30.900
I do have a master's degree in american history.
Colin True
00:05:30.940 - 00:05:34.140
Colin, do you know what country that the beans came from in 1723?
Justin Housman
00:05:34.220 - 00:05:36.068
Probably Africa. Somewhere in Africa.
Colin True
00:05:36.124 - 00:05:38.188
It would be a good guess. Brazil, though, actually.
Justin Housman
00:05:38.244 - 00:05:55.290
Brazil. All right. I was. Yeah. Like, I don't know how long it took for that to, like. Of course. People have been growing coffee down there forever.
Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. I also was like, what's easier to get? Like, it's easier to get. Well, Brazil makes sense. I'm thinking, like, most of Latin America.
I'm like, well, it's probably easier to get to from Africa to the states.
Colin True
00:05:55.590 - 00:06:05.958
What number out of five? What out of five. So however many out of five Americans drink caffeinated coffee. So five Americans drink caffeinated.
Justin Housman
00:06:05.974 - 00:06:19.972
Gotta be three. I gotta be three and five. Wait, wait, does this mean, like, pure light? Like, if you drink coffee, does how many drink caffeinated coffee?
Or just generally speaking, if you're an american, you have a three and a. Like, I would say three out of five Americans drink caffeinated coffee, I would guess.
Colin True
00:06:20.076 - 00:06:22.012
Yeah, it's four out of five, but, yeah, that's the.
Justin Housman
00:06:22.116 - 00:06:23.252
Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Colin True
00:06:23.316 - 00:06:26.800
And then same question, but how many out of five, like, sugar in their coffee?
Justin Housman
00:06:27.380 - 00:06:28.244
Four out of five.
Colin True
00:06:28.332 - 00:06:33.372
Two. I was actually impressed by that. There's more black coffee out there. Yeah, right.
Justin Housman
00:06:33.516 - 00:06:35.788
What do you. What do you do? What's your straight black coffee?
Colin True
00:06:35.844 - 00:06:40.676
Yeah. Yeah. And last question. Is coffee awesome coffee?
Justin Housman
00:06:40.828 - 00:06:42.920
Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
Colin True
00:06:43.300 - 00:06:45.240
Not as good as beer, apparently.
Justin Housman
00:06:45.770 - 00:06:52.746
I don't know. I mean, I enjoy them both so much, but I do feel like I get more actual enjoyment when I'm having a beer. Like, I rarely look forward to coffee.
Colin True
00:06:52.898 - 00:07:25.750
All right, well, before we get into some headlines, this is normally where we promote our pals at Darby, our PR friends in Asheville, North Carolina. And, yeah, they are based in Asheville. And if you've been paying attention, things are a little rough in western North Carolina right now.
So we just want to ask the rock flight listeners out there, if you have the means, if you can help out, please head over to FEMA dot Gov, and there's a whole list of links where you can donate to help out with relief from Hurricane Helene. So we love our pals at Darby. We hope everybody's doing well out there. And please help out if you can, if you haven't.
Justin Housman
00:07:27.930 - 00:08:23.874
I don't know, the news is so fractured these days. It's like you look at what you're interested in and kind of ignore what you're not.
But I hadn't realized how hard Asheville had been hit until this morning. And obviously Asheville is a pretty big, you know, it's one of America's, like, kind of cornerstone sort of adventure towns or outdoor towns.
It's a hub for sure. And so I guarantee there's people listening to this from Asheville, probably in Asheville, if they can.
Obviously we have friends, I'm sure I have online friends I don't even know that live in Asheville, you know. But, yeah, like, I mean, it's worth. It's worth kind of looking at some of the stuff that's coming out of there.
I mean, like, I was kind of horrified this morning.
A friend of mine showed me some footage of streets that are just like, washed away and like entire blocks that are basically just like silt at this point. And so anyway, yeah, check it out. If you can help out, please do.
But we're, if you're, if you're in Nashville, if you're associated with Asheville at all, our, you know, our hearts go out to you guys today. It's ruts. I don't even know where to begin.
Colin True
00:08:24.002 - 00:09:20.602
Well, speaking of Hurricane Helene and closures, you know, appalachian trail hikers, this is from the trek Co, are being advised to skip right now the first 865 miles of the 2121 hundred mile classic trailhead because basically the entire southern portion of the trail after Hurricane Helene is, I would say it's wiped out, but basically that entire section of the trail you wanna avoid at this point, the town of Hot Springs, which is at mile 275, has been flooded. The town of Irwin, Tennessee, at mile 345 has been evacuated.
Probably a lot more towns have been evacuated since I updated the story over the weekend. And the town of Damascus, Virginia, that far north, mile 471, is also experiencing flooding.
So, yeah, basically the entire southern Appalachians have experienced some form of flooding or impact from the store storm. So I mean, obviously trail access is pretty trivial when compared to the total impact of this historic storm.
I got to think there's going to be some long term implications to hikers on the, at even stretching into next year.
Justin Housman
00:09:20.786 - 00:09:35.418
Oh, for sure. I mean, think about, you know, around here, you know, if it's even slightly above average in terms of like a like, storm kind of violence.
You know, like trees are down everywhere, trails are messed up, or just winter out there, right?
Colin True
00:09:35.434 - 00:09:38.514
I mean, you live in a relatively stormy, generally speaking.
Justin Housman
00:09:38.562 - 00:10:04.894
Like there's a regular storm with like a little maybe, you know, a little windier than normal and it's just, it's like chaos. So I can't even imagine. And there's probably entire sections of trail that are gone. I mean, I've saw footage of somewhere in the, in the southeast.
I don't know where it was the other day on, on probably an instagram reel and it was raining really hard and it's like looking up like a sloped hillside, you know, I would say like 15% to 20%. Not crazy steep, but pretty steep. Just like a grassy hillside. And it's like, it's a land water avalanche.
Colin True
00:10:04.942 - 00:10:06.182
Like all of a sudden, oh, I saw that.
Justin Housman
00:10:06.206 - 00:10:21.832
The trees start shaking and it's like, holy shit, that is terrifying. I've never seen anything like that before.
I mean, that, I mean, it was like, it was, I mean, that must have been moving like 80 miles an hour, like when it comes rushing past the camera. So if there's a trail anywhere in a situation like that, it's gone, you know?
Colin True
00:10:21.896 - 00:10:38.486
So it's a really good point. I mean, yeah.
You think any place I've lived where they get some semblance of winter, if you go out in the spring, whether it's on a bike you're hiking or running or whatever, you're gonna come across down trees or just branches that are down, fell down over the winter or something like that. So something like this. I just. I can't imagine. I mean, if you're planning an at through hike for next anytime now.
Justin Housman
00:10:38.518 - 00:10:54.494
I mean, it got a lot shorter. Maybe I could probably pick it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to think that, like, they're not even going to get.
I mean, so even if, say, there's not another major tropical storm that comes through the rest of the season, I mean, the winter is so.
Colin True
00:10:54.542 - 00:10:54.726
Right.
Justin Housman
00:10:54.758 - 00:11:08.928
Like, this is going to complicate anything they were going to already be able to do to, like, clear trails over the winter. So I got to think, like, next spring, it's probably.
I mean, unless there's a herculean effort to, like, get out there and clean it, maybe there will be. You gotta think that, like, next spring is still gonna be pretty closed.
Colin True
00:11:09.064 - 00:11:19.160
I've been pretty bad. I'm not really spending a lot of time volunteering on, like, trail crews, but I will happily go out and use trails.
And I spend very little time volunteering.
Justin Housman
00:11:19.200 - 00:11:23.000
My time getting mad that it's not getting mad that there's, like, a tree in the way. Like, somebody needs to come fix this.
Colin True
00:11:23.040 - 00:11:57.640
But I would say, you know, this would be the time if you're in that area. And even if you're someone like me who has not done a lot with that, now's the time to give your time. Right. I mean, and not just in the at.
I'm sure there's plenty of state parks and other places where there's gonna be a huge amount of cleanup required. You know, we're talking about right now, we're talking about Asheville, and they're cut off from, like, water and power.
And I'm sure the next couple of weeks are going to be very rough from that point of view. But then, yeah, this is going to really linger. So this is the time now of anybody out there.
Maybe we could find some resources to put in the show notes or talk about in a future episode of people who want to give their time to get the adventure community back on their feet.
Justin Housman
00:11:58.420 - 00:12:09.736
Do you ever ride like with any kind of knife or anything to like potentially, or like a little mini saw to like. I carry minigun trees on the trail just case a predator shows up.
Colin True
00:12:09.768 - 00:12:10.620
You never know.
Justin Housman
00:12:14.360 - 00:12:18.976
Just case you have to like attach it to the roof of a. Or the open door of a Huey helicopter.
Colin True
00:12:19.048 - 00:12:21.264
That's how I mountain bike with the helicopter and a minigun.
Justin Housman
00:12:21.312 - 00:12:30.768
I keep. I'll show it to you.
Not that anyone else on the podcast can see it, but I keep this like little handsaw by my bike area to remind me to bring it, which I never do.
Colin True
00:12:30.904 - 00:12:34.352
In case you come across something that's down across the track, there's always like.
Justin Housman
00:12:34.376 - 00:12:40.878
Branches down or like a tree trunk down and, you know, like, people bring that stuff to like, deal with the trail and I never even think about it.
Colin True
00:12:40.934 - 00:13:53.046
I mean, I'm pretty. I'll get off my bike and move stuff if it's like, if there's a branch down and even if it's small, like, just ask somebody.
I know a million people are going to ride by this and not do anything about it, but you're right, it's like, it's.
Especially if you're carrying a backpack or have a bag on your bike, like, yeah, a small little hand saw would be a great idea to bring for when these things happen. Yep. But anyway, anyway, we're thinking of you, North Carolina and the rest of the southeast. It's going to be.
We'll probably be talking about this well into next year. Next story.
According to Gear Junkie, a survey on Mount Rainier in Washington has shown that the true summit has shifted from the Columbia crest, which has been the summit of Mount Rainier forever, to a rocky spot about 500 horizontal feet from the Columbia crest. This shows how 22ft of ice has melted to create the new summit since the last time it was measured in 1998.
And while this change will have, it'll have very little impact on those looking to summit the volcano. Um, you know, the change of the glaciers on the mountain will likely result in the upper part of the mountain becoming more dangerous to climb.
Yeah, I know that climate change is bad.
Uh, but what I'd like to start by saying is that anyone who climbs the mountain now, well, you know, you kind of suck it because I summited the mountain when it was taller. I got 410ft on you. So, uh, that was in 2006. So there you go. I'm the world's best mountaineer.
Justin Housman
00:13:53.118 - 00:14:18.934
That's, that's all that matters. I, as a person who doesn't, like, climb mountains? I'm all, I love these kinds of stories.
Not, not because of the climate change aspect, but the fact that like, like true summits aren't always so obvious. I just think that's amazing. You know, like 22ft, that's a pretty significant change, right? That's, that's pretty terrifying, actually.
I mean, I feel like that's noticeable. Like, if you've been up there more than once, you'd be like, oh, yeah, this is different.
Colin True
00:14:19.102 - 00:14:26.990
They know the guides who summit that like 1015 times a summer. Right. And now it's like, well, we used to stand over there when the summit. When we did the summit, now we stand here.
Justin Housman
00:14:27.150 - 00:14:49.146
I mean, that's also probably kind of. Obviously that's always been the case. I mean, we. It's just not supposed to happen that quickly. I mean, it's.
I don't know if you like, start to try to get super weird about things and try to imagine mountain ranges in geological time. I mean, obviously they're changing all the time. So, I mean, no matter what, in like 250 years. 250,000 years is probably more accurate.
Like, it will look slightly different, radically different.
Colin True
00:14:49.218 - 00:14:53.150
Explodes three times between the times over that time period. No, it's true.
Justin Housman
00:14:53.450 - 00:15:23.320
I just wrote a little piece about this thing called Mount Thor. Have you ever heard of Mount Thor? There's a lot of Mount Thor, but there's like a very specific. There's like one in.
On Baffin island in Canada that's kind of well known. It looks like you prompted AI to make a mountain that looks like a terrifying wave. Kind of. It's radical.
It's like half dome stretched out and made to look really mean from certain. There's certain angles where it really looks incredible. I'm looking it up, but it doesn't look real.
Colin True
00:15:24.900 - 00:15:26.246
Look at that thing.
Justin Housman
00:15:26.428 - 00:15:26.746
Right?
Colin True
00:15:26.778 - 00:15:32.098
Yeah, that's like, that's like, that's mount doom. And the Lord of the Rings is terrifying.
Justin Housman
00:15:32.274 - 00:15:50.106
And that's in the area where, like, everything is exactly. Well, it's. It's like inuit word is like tooth. Like what the name is for, but.
And like everything around there is all named for like, asgardian things, you know, which is pretty cool. But anyway, the reason I brought that up though is it's also called. It's also called the fastest growing peak in the world.
Colin True
00:15:50.178 - 00:15:50.530
Oh, wow.
Justin Housman
00:15:50.570 - 00:16:02.038
Just because of, um, just natural activity in the area. It grows like a centimeter a year. Like it's pretty fast, which is. That's f. I mean, like, Everest is changing.
I think Everest is getting higher every year.
Colin True
00:16:02.054 - 00:16:04.390
It goes like, I can't centimeter or something, whatever it is. Yeah.
Justin Housman
00:16:04.430 - 00:16:10.810
This is. This one is like. Grows faster than anywhere else in the world, and it's. Which is also, by the way, an absolutely bonkers thing to know.
Colin True
00:16:11.190 - 00:16:13.198
Right? Just the fact that we know that.
Justin Housman
00:16:13.374 - 00:16:32.746
How? I have no idea how.
I guess GPS, like, super good gps, but otherwise, like, when the world, like, you're not running a tape from the top to the bottom. But that's. That's. Yeah. You. You. Well, yeah, you're officially. No matter who climbs Rainier after you. Yep. You've definitely climbed it? More of it.
I guess, technically speaking, I've climbed more of that mountain.
Colin True
00:16:32.858 - 00:16:36.938
But I guess we're just accepting this as our new normal. I mean, think with the hurricane we just talked about and then, like, how.
Justin Housman
00:16:36.954 - 00:16:37.810
The story is like, this.
Colin True
00:16:37.850 - 00:16:39.650
This is it. This is just the way it is, right?
Justin Housman
00:16:39.730 - 00:17:08.332
We are. We are like, whoever came up with the metaphor of the frog in the. In the boiling pot is like. That's probably.
That's probably the most accurate metaphor in history, right? It has to be. I mean, we are so there at this point. I mean, what would it take?
I mean, for God's sake, dude, like, remember, like, two years ago when there was hearings at the Pentagon about UFO's and people were like, I don't know, maybe. Sure. Like. Like, I don't. At this point, we're willing to, like, whatever. Yeah. All right. You know, like, did you see that.
Colin True
00:17:08.356 - 00:17:09.600
Tick tock I sent you?
Justin Housman
00:17:13.900 - 00:17:20.189
Yeah. And it's. It's just like, I don't. It's. It's. I don't. The frog. It's not like we don't know.
Colin True
00:17:20.309 - 00:17:20.925
Right?
Justin Housman
00:17:21.077 - 00:17:27.197
The frog in the boiling pot, I think maybe does know what's happening. It's just like, what? This is nice. I don't want. What am I going to do?
Colin True
00:17:27.253 - 00:17:30.209
It felt so good a few minutes ago. Maybe if I wait, it'll get better.
Justin Housman
00:17:30.509 - 00:17:53.682
Yeah.
I mean, like, there's all sorts of stuff right now about how northern California is, like, prepped for, like, a massive fire season in October because it's supposed to get real hot next. This week and next week and all that sort of stuff. And it's like. I also don't know. Like, isn't this how it's kind of always been? Like. It's.
It's like knowing a mountain is a centimeter taller. It's like. Well, it's kind of always been like this. I guess it's a little worse, you know? But, yeah, I don't know at this point.
I don't know what would shock me anymore weather wise. I really don't.
Colin True
00:17:53.746 - 00:18:09.074
Yeah. This episode of the Rock Flight is brought to you by the great Malden Outdoors, an outdoor enablement campaign in the city of Malden, Massachusetts.
And the brains behind this initiative, Darren Jose. He's here with me right now. Darren, first of all, what is an outdoor enablement campaign?
Darren Josey
00:18:09.202 - 00:18:19.830
An outdoor enablement campaign provides four things. Advertising, resources, programming and youth development.
These are the four things that I believe are really important to getting more people outside.
Colin True
00:18:19.990 - 00:18:23.422
So why is this campaign important to DEI efforts in the outdoor industry?
Darren Josey
00:18:23.526 - 00:18:50.378
We have to start by getting more people outside. And that can start their journey from, one, becoming someone who just enjoys outdoor recreation as a lifestyle. But two, a path for a job.
No one told me that going outside and rock climbing could lead to a job one day, or fishing or bike riding. Didn't know that was a thing until I got into the industry.
And I want to change that and start that journey a lot earlier for way more people in our society.
Colin True
00:18:50.474 - 00:18:53.922
Hey, man. And lastly, how can outdoor brands and retailers help or participate?
Darren Josey
00:18:54.026 - 00:19:12.018
Go to thegreatmauldonoutdoors.com, click on the Contact button and reach out. We are always looking for donations for gear, funds and expertise. You can lend your existing staff to lead an online course.
Or if you're in the New England area, come on down and lead a class. We're looking for more programming.
Colin True
00:19:12.074 - 00:19:53.554
Head to the great Malden outdoors, space.com and click contact to build a partnership today.
I was excited about this because I know we've talked about some space stuff before on the show, and we both like talking about space stuff we do there. There are two sports stories from explorers web this week.
The first was scientists have spotted two giant plasma jets streaming from a massive black hole measuring 23 light years in length. So that's the equivalent to 140 Milky Way galaxies long. And they've been around since the universe was only 6.3 billion years old.
And I don't know why, but this was absolutely terrifying to me to think about that. So our galaxy, the Milky Way, you stack 23 of them in a row.
Justin Housman
00:19:53.642 - 00:19:53.866
Yeah.
Colin True
00:19:53.898 - 00:20:01.510
That's what this plasma jet shooting out of a black hole is. I don't even understand what most of this is. It just sounds really scary. There should be a horror movie made about this.
Justin Housman
00:20:02.250 - 00:20:10.226
So remember the scene at the very end of men in black when the aliens are playing marbles with like.
Colin True
00:20:10.298 - 00:20:11.530
Yeah. Like the very, very end.
Justin Housman
00:20:11.570 - 00:20:11.738
Yeah.
Colin True
00:20:11.754 - 00:20:12.106
Like the last.
Justin Housman
00:20:12.138 - 00:20:17.914
Yeah. That's like our. That's like the. Like. That's like the Milky Way is like in a marble, right? I mean, that's obviously what, like, we're.
Colin True
00:20:17.962 - 00:20:20.010
Clearly, like, with you on this.
Justin Housman
00:20:20.050 - 00:20:21.634
Planets are atoms or something, right?
Colin True
00:20:21.722 - 00:20:26.470
Yeah, we are. Like, what's the small? We're smaller than atoms.
Justin Housman
00:20:26.930 - 00:20:43.532
I mean, clearly, like, it's gotta be like, the planet is like an atom. And, like, if you, like, somehow got small enough with, like, an electron microscope, you would be like, oh, wow. That's, like, fuck.
There's, like, even smaller ones. And somehow you get a bigger microscope and you realize that there's, like, things flying around in them, and you go, okay, all right. It has to be.
Colin True
00:20:43.596 - 00:20:50.196
Is it like, Horton hears a who. Where? Like, where the. Who's on the flower, you know, being, like, carried around by an elephant. You know what I mean?
Justin Housman
00:20:50.308 - 00:20:51.700
You know, I've actually never read that one.
Colin True
00:20:51.740 - 00:20:52.212
Oh, it's good.
Justin Housman
00:20:52.236 - 00:20:54.124
Which is weird. Cause I have two little kids in the house.
Colin True
00:20:54.212 - 00:20:56.988
The adaptation of it's great, which Jim Carrey plays Horton. Really good.
Justin Housman
00:20:57.044 - 00:20:59.140
Sounds terrifying. It sounds like that would be freaky, too.
Colin True
00:20:59.180 - 00:21:01.196
Oh, it's really good. I think your kids would like it.
Justin Housman
00:21:01.268 - 00:21:07.120
That was my favorite. We've talked about space on the show before because to me, it's like, there's nothing more adventurous. I mean, it's pretty fucking rad.
Colin True
00:21:07.200 - 00:21:07.440
Yeah.
Justin Housman
00:21:07.480 - 00:21:18.864
And so it's like.
It's weird that, like, this somehow would be different than, like, some massive, like, volcano going off somewhere, which we would totally talk about. Every outdoor. Every outdoor, you know, publication would cover it. But, like, this is very outdoor.
Colin True
00:21:18.952 - 00:21:19.700
This is.
Justin Housman
00:21:20.520 - 00:21:58.206
And it's also just, like, anything that reminds you that this is all subject to the whim of, like, a universe that you cannot possibly fucking comprehend, is why. I mean, like, that there's very. Any point.
Any point we can start getting, like, you know, sort of some message from the president, like, well, we just discovered this, like, plasma jet that's apparently been hurtling toward us for the last 15 billion years. Well, I don't think the galaxy is not that old, or the universe might not be that old, but anyway, you know, whatever. Like, yeah, and it's.
Unfortunately, it's gonna hit us tomorrow. Like, hug your pets.
Colin True
00:21:58.238 - 00:22:02.204
Yeah, it was a good run, everybody. You get to be here for the end of the world.
Justin Housman
00:22:02.252 - 00:22:25.156
This is the. This is. This is not Germane necessarily, to this conversation, but, like, I was having a big, long chat with my wife yesterday about AI.
She kind of, you know, in her job, she deals with. With kind of what is going. Coming with AI all the time?
And the only thing I can think of all the time is, like, you know, the sun is still going to, like, the earth is not for, like, no matter what we do, we're gone. Like, you can't. What are we doing here?
Colin True
00:22:25.188 - 00:22:27.924
We have to go populate another world is the only way I get, I guess.
Justin Housman
00:22:27.972 - 00:22:34.112
But, like, even then, so what? Like, what? Like, just can't you. Doesn't that seem. At a certain point, that seems. Seems totally fucking insane to me.
Colin True
00:22:34.176 - 00:22:42.536
Absolutely.
If you said, hey, we can go, like, send a probe to discover another planet that the human race could live on, or we can solve, like, homelessness, I'd be like, yeah, homelessness, let's go.
Justin Housman
00:22:42.688 - 00:22:46.568
Or we could just have. Or we could just have, like, have mai tais and accept that, like, life is finite.
Colin True
00:22:46.664 - 00:22:47.392
That's.
Justin Housman
00:22:47.576 - 00:22:55.312
Yeah, it's like, that's. You know, can I choose that option? Cause, like, it just seems crazy. Like, no wonder we're so messed up. It's like, you can't accept.
Colin True
00:22:55.416 - 00:23:11.140
When we first. Before we started recording, we're talking about where we are in life, what's going on, and this is stressing us out or whatever. It's like.
And then you think, read about the 23 light year long plasma jet coming out of a black hole. It's like, you know, actually, I got to go for a hike today. How bummed out am I right now? Like, we're doing okay, you know?
Justin Housman
00:23:11.220 - 00:23:13.868
Yeah, it's wild. Well, what's the other side?
Colin True
00:23:13.884 - 00:23:28.892
Well, the good segue to the other story.
Cause last week, physicists in New Mexico show that x rays resulting in a nuclear blast could be enough to alter the trajectory of a planet killing asteroid. So if something did come shooting, if the president did, you know, come and say, hey, you know, okay.
Justin Housman
00:23:28.956 - 00:23:30.996
Asteroids coming. Yeah. Yeah.
Colin True
00:23:31.188 - 00:23:37.104
I just want to know, what does this mean if we can actually do this? What does this mean for the legacy of both deep impact and armageddon?
Justin Housman
00:23:37.232 - 00:23:51.232
Well, there's probably corollaries here, right, with movies where there was, like, some sort of horrible calamity, and we've solved it, but now it turns out in reality, like, in modern age, that calamity wouldn't be an issue anymore. There has to be. There has to be movie like. This has to be a thing.
Colin True
00:23:51.296 - 00:23:55.944
Well, now we're getting to get new movies where we're going to use. They're going to send you.
Justin Housman
00:23:55.992 - 00:24:02.778
That's where. That's too big for a nuke to knock out. Now what? Now we got to find. Well, Bruce. Bruce Willis dead. I.
Colin True
00:24:02.944 - 00:24:04.382
No, but he's not probably.
Justin Housman
00:24:04.446 - 00:24:05.222
He's, like, not doing well.
Colin True
00:24:05.246 - 00:24:06.086
He's not doing well.
Justin Housman
00:24:06.198 - 00:24:07.686
So we're not setting him up.
Colin True
00:24:07.878 - 00:24:32.116
No, that's still, like, the best, apparently, the. The. The Armageddon commentary where I think Ben Affleck is on it. He might. He may have been having a few drinks beforehand, apparently.
And he's, like, just kind of ripping the movie to shreds with Michael Bay there. It's apparently the question of, like, wait a minute.
It was better just to train miners to go be astronauts than it was to train astronauts to go be miners. It's brilliant.
Justin Housman
00:24:32.148 - 00:24:32.700
So insane.
Colin True
00:24:32.780 - 00:24:33.840
Don't ask questions.
Justin Housman
00:24:34.620 - 00:24:54.844
I mean, asteroids are pretty sweet. I mean, like, I'll be. I'll be, you know, I'll be in here, like, writing some story about, like, hiking boots or something.
And my wife will be in the other room having a conversation with someone at NASA about, like, moon mining or, like, asteroid mining. So, like, this. I mean, that's, like, people are really trying to figure this sort of stuff out. Like, we might be mining on asteroids in our lifetime.
Colin True
00:24:54.892 - 00:24:59.692
Yeah, well, they landed something on an asteroid and then sent it back to Earth and collected samples from it not that long ago.
Justin Housman
00:24:59.716 - 00:25:01.930
That's such a bad idea. Yeah, but such a bad idea.
Colin True
00:25:02.050 - 00:25:14.450
But this is where the science.
The idea that we can do stuff like this is pretty awesome and that we know that we actually did land something on a moving asteroid in space, collected samples, then launched it back to Earth and retrieved those samples.
Justin Housman
00:25:14.570 - 00:25:21.330
To your point about these people, like, the. These are, like, the killian journeys of the science world, where they're, like, we. This is physically possible. Let's try to do it.
Colin True
00:25:21.330 - 00:25:22.266
Let's try and do it.
Justin Housman
00:25:22.418 - 00:25:28.418
Yeah. And there's. I mean, I don't know. Not necessarily sure there's a reason, but, you know, we can. So let's do it.
Colin True
00:25:28.514 - 00:25:40.586
Well, all right, so what do we got? We did. We had hurricanes and climate change. Mount Rainier, shorter. And black holes and nuclear weapons on asteroids scare us. I think we kind of.
I think we kind of covered it all today.
Justin Housman
00:25:40.778 - 00:25:42.322
Anything pleasant happened in the outdoors?
Colin True
00:25:42.346 - 00:25:49.434
I don't know. I felt like those would be fun time. I guess there's a lot of death and gloom. My bad. I assembled the topics. Didn't seem like a lot to talk about.
Now to Kembe Mutumbo.
Justin Housman
00:25:49.602 - 00:25:58.358
Well, I mean, obviously, it's literally horrible and also unfortunate for us that, like, you know, the hurricane thing really, like, kind of stole the show this week.
Colin True
00:25:58.414 - 00:26:01.382
Yeah. Well, I think it's time for the parting shot.
Chris DeMakes
00:26:01.446 - 00:26:08.662
It's time to end. It's time to leave this place that town forgot let's take our rock and.
Colin True
00:26:08.726 - 00:26:11.470
Head on home it's time for our.
Justin Housman
00:26:11.510 - 00:26:13.886
Part and shout who's first?
Colin True
00:26:14.078 - 00:26:15.090
You go first.
Justin Housman
00:26:15.630 - 00:26:34.250
Okay, so this is actually gonna apply real nicely to what we've just been talking about. And it's not so much a parting shot. I guess it kind of is a parting shot. And you know what? It is? Just be nice and. Just be nice and wave in traffic.
Just be nice and just wave. That's it. I guess the party shot is. Parting shot is don't be not nice.
Colin True
00:26:34.710 - 00:26:35.310
Okay?
Justin Housman
00:26:35.390 - 00:27:26.798
Just. It is. I'm just. I just, like, just. Just give a wave. Just get, like, if someone lets you in, give them a wave.
If someone lets you over, give them a wave. Let's just all. Let's just. Can we just do that? That's. That's all I'm asking for. I've just been.
There's been a lot of, like, uh, just sort of, I don't know, entitled driving around here lately that I've seen, and I just. I just. It's so easy to be nice. It's just so dang easy.
I got yelled at by the, by the crossing guard the other day because I pushed the button to cross the street, and he apparently had already let a bunch of cars go by. He was, like, waiting for them, like, letting the. Letting more cars go by before he stopped the traffic again.
And they have my two little girls on the bike with me, and he's like, hey, man, don't do that. I'm like, don't do what? Like, what are you even talking? It took me a minute to rose what he meant, just be nice. Doesn't it be in the car?
It could be anywhere. Just be nice, you know? Just don't be mean. That's my parting shot.
Colin True
00:27:26.854 - 00:27:33.686
I think it's a great parting shot. And I. And I co sign it, although I did. I was on the phone with you while you were in traffic trying to get to the beach the other day.
Justin Housman
00:27:33.758 - 00:27:36.438
And they can't hear me. Those people can't hear me.
Colin True
00:27:36.454 - 00:27:42.570
Your party shot weeks ago. Don't honk your horn and settle down at traffic. You were yelling and honking your horn. It was quite.
Justin Housman
00:27:43.070 - 00:28:00.536
This is what surfing does to you. I'm like, I got to get through this tunnel. That was extremely frustrating.
And I will defend myself by saying it is a one way tunnel with, like, a ten minute wait.
And there was, like, a couple cars ahead of me that clearly didn't understand what was happening, and we're just sitting there with a green light, and I'm like, if this light turns red, I'm sitting here for another ten minutes.
Colin True
00:28:00.608 - 00:28:04.656
But, yeah, I think, let's be nice. Be nice, everybody. Be nice to each other out there.
Justin Housman
00:28:04.808 - 00:28:05.584
Yeah. All right.
Colin True
00:28:05.592 - 00:28:58.608
Well, my party shot is not nearly as nice.
So I got to talk about raw Tech that came out from Fox racing, because I saw this press release about raw text, a new technology, new apparel technology from Fox racing. And it's spelled R A W T e c. It's all capital letters. And look, I saw it. And all I had in a press release, and all I could see was raw dog.
That's all the word that I could see. And literally, I'm like, fox racing releases raw dog. I'm like, what is happening? And then you realize, oh, so just, God damn it.
People at brands take a second to look at the thing you're putting out there and poke some holes in it. Just be like, what can people see when they look at that? It's everywhere.
And if you go to their website, it's like, oh, now, with raw tech, I'm assuming it's some. I don't even really know what it is. It's a. It's a new fabric technology. But you do.
You're calling it raw tech also, by the way, if you don't want to get as gross as I am with raw dog, I see raw tech. If I'm not thinking raw dog, I'm thinking chafing. I'm thinking, like, encouraging.
Justin Housman
00:28:58.664 - 00:29:01.448
I was just gonna say raw is not pleasant ever.
Colin True
00:29:01.504 - 00:29:15.050
Oh, bad, bad, bad fox racing. So I am again calling for the institution of a brand. Asshole. At every outdoor brand. To stop you from embarrassing yourself, please. Raw tag.
Why would you want to wear something?
Justin Housman
00:29:16.350 - 00:29:19.010
What is it? What's wrong about it? Not, like, treated.
Colin True
00:29:19.670 - 00:29:21.374
I don't. I don't know. I close the.
Justin Housman
00:29:21.462 - 00:29:23.290
This will chafe your shit.
Colin True
00:29:23.790 - 00:29:46.562
They don't think. They don't think about this stuff, man. All right, well, let's see if we can wrap it up there. Thanks for everybody listening.
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00:29:46.666 - 00:30:42.530
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